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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by YouveBeenTrumpd View Post
    There are none. Its just another attack method for liberals to justify murdering babies.
    moronic drivel

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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealers Wheel View Post
    Many children in America are born into poverty.
    Living standards are better today than they've ever been, yet crime, depression, drug abuse etc are at all-time highs. Figures.

    People who self-identify as pro-life also tend to vote against healthcare measures for the medically indigent, daycare funding for working mothers, school lunch programs, Headstart-type programs, etc.

    These same people also tend to support funding for prison construction so they have a place to warehouse these children as the cumulative effects of poverty take their toll.
    So because Republicans are wary of how the country spends its finite resources, and support building prisons to keep child abusers and criminals out of society, that means we don't care about children? No logic found. Please explain.

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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The mere fact that pro-lifers desire to force women to bear unwanted children is child abuse.
    Nothing that a child will ever go through would be worse than killing it. Nothing. Especially in some of the barbaric and brutal ways abortions are carried out. You're literally saying that dismembering children inside the womb or plucking them out and leaving them to rot in a bucket of acid is somehow better for that child than having it grow up with ripped shoes.

    That doesn't even approach the bounds of logic, and it's morally deplorable. Poverty is usually temporary, and even so the children in it still have a desire to live. So no, you're not doing that child a favour by killing it. Nice try though.

    Poverty is subjective anyway. The lower class in America lives way better than the upper class in most countries. Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg could quite easily look at us working class people and say that we're living in poverty and therefore our lives don't matter. Ultimately what you're doing is determining the value of one's life by their social class.

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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Living standards are better today than they've ever been, yet crime, depression, drug abuse etc are at all-time highs. Figures.



    So because Republicans are wary of how the country spends its finite resources, and support building prisons to keep child abusers and criminals out of society, that means we don't care about children? No logic found. Please explain.
    Now you're just making up sh!t. Crime, etc., is not at all time high.

    No, Republicans would force a woman to carry an unwanted, unloved child into the world. And then you would deny that child healthcare, housing, a decent education. You know, because that would be like ... socialism.

    There are things far worse than abortion in utero (throwing an unwanted unloved child away before they are born). I know. I was personally thrown away at least six times before I was 23. How I ever managed to avoid residing in one of your many abundant prisons I'll never know.

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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Nothing that a child will ever go through would be worse than killing it. Nothing. Especially in some of the barbaric and brutal ways abortions are carried out. You're literally saying that dismembering children inside the womb or plucking them out and leaving them to rot in a bucket of acid is somehow better for that child than having it grow up with ripped shoes.

    That doesn't even approach the bounds of logic, and it's morally deplorable. Poverty is usually temporary, and even so the children in it still have a desire to live. So no, you're not doing that child a favour by killing it. Nice try though.

    Poverty is subjective anyway. The lower class in America lives way better than the upper class in most countries. Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg could quite easily look at us working class people and say that we're living in poverty and therefore our lives don't matter. Ultimately what you're doing is determining the value of one's life by their social class.
    Then why do we euthanize pets when they are in pain? Why bother doing that if death is worse than any pain any living thing can feel? Or do you believe that death is only worse for people?
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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Living standards are better today than they've ever been, yet crime, depression, drug abuse etc are at all-time highs. Figures.



    So because Republicans are wary of how the country spends its finite resources, and support building prisons to keep child abusers and criminals out of society, that means we don't care about children? No logic found. Please explain.
    Perhaps you need to check some facts here. Crime is not at an all time high. It is in fact at a historical low.

    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45236.pdf

    As for Republicans being wary of how the country spends its finite resources, I call huge bull on that. If anything, it is Republicans who are always willing to spend our resources and make claims such as "well our world isn't overpopulated because everyone in the world could easily fit inside the state of Texas" (either forgetting or not aware of the fact that overpopulation has absolutely zilch to do with where people can physically fit in the world). If Republicans truly cared about finite resources, they wouldn't put the economy and more accurately greed over conservation of those finite resources, nor would they be so against abortion and birth control, with claims that people need to have more babies.
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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    There is probably no way to know. Many of us who give money as private donations also don't claim tax deductions for them.
    On both sides, especially since you can only claim such givings as tax deductions if those things exceed the standard deduction (unless you want to claim less deductions on your taxes), and this normally requires something besides donations to obtain, in many cases owning land/a house/major property, which many people don't or having major medical bills. I donated thousands to charity just from payroll deductions in most of my years on active duty, and not once was I able to claim such things, since the standard deduction was simply more than that.
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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And never mind the real fact that the anti-abortions desire is for the abuse and neglect of women and children
    What a moronic statement!
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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    On both sides, especially since you can only claim such givings as tax deductions if those things exceed the standard deduction (unless you want to claim less deductions on your taxes), and this normally requires something besides donations to obtain, in many cases owning land/a house/major property, which many people don't or having major medical bills. I donated thousands to charity just from payroll deductions in most of my years on active duty, and not once was I able to claim such things, since the standard deduction was simply more than that.
    As I say, I wouldn't know because I don't claim deductions for charitable donations. But tithing is deductible and doesn't require one to be a property owner, only to itemize. Does Tithing at Church Count as a Charitable Donation? - Budgeting Money

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    Re: What evidence is there that pro-life supporters do not care for fetuses after they are born?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    As I say, I wouldn't know because I don't claim deductions for charitable donations. But tithing is deductible and doesn't require one to be a property owner, only to itemize. Does Tithing at Church Count as a Charitable Donation? - Budgeting Money
    Many of us not only give to our church but also give to several Charities.

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    I usually give anonymously.

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