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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    If you force women to have children against her wish you can pay for that decision of yours together with all the other pro-lifers/conservatives.
    No. NO ONE except the parent has ANY responsibility for the baby.


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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

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    Which is greater, the life of the baby or a womans "rights"??????
    That's actually easy to figure out and it has already been done. That the monetary value of human lives has not been publicized doesn't mean the figures aren't used every day in determining the benefit of a civil activity to society and whether it is cost effective. Every civil project is investigated for its cost effectiveness. An adult man or woman has the greatest monetary value, a child much less value and fetus only potential value.

    The monetary value of a human life is derived by calculating the investments made by public and private institutions in health, education, safety of person, security of possessions, training, opportunity and value to society. The older a person is the more value they have, up to a definable age.

    A woman has way more value to society than a fetus.

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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    No. NO ONE except the parent has ANY responsibility for the baby.
    Then let her make her own choices regarding her pregnancy.

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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    No. NO ONE except the parent has ANY responsibility for the baby.


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    If you want to ban abortion, well than the responsibility for the birth is no longer the choice or responsibility of the mother.
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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    I didnít ďforceĒ her to do anything.What she is doing is (pisspoorly) forcing society to pay for her poor choices. In case you missed it, it was HER choice from the beginning, and the outcome is HER responsibility.


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    Nope, if you want to ban abortion, it no longer is a woman's choice and if you want to force a woman to keep an unwanted child, the state/government/the prolife mob has to assume financial responsibility for that child.

    And no, she is no longer allowed to make her own choices than again, it is down to the pro-life lot and the government who banned abortion to pay for that.
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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    No. NO ONE except the parent has ANY responsibility for the baby.


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    Then you should be perfectly onboard with abortion. Who else should be responsible for the unborn?

    According to you, no one else should be responsible for the financial raising of the child...so it would just die if the parents couldnt do so, right?

    Why would abortion be any different?

    Didnt actually "connect the dots" in your responses, eh? Gotta use some logic in there!
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    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Your response does not track with logic, but then I know what your position is.

    Where do you get off saying that society, or some stranger off the street should be responsible for the financial raising of the child? It's the birth parents. I CLEARLY connect the dots and they run directly to you. You are responsible, and until you accept that responsibility, you have no position.
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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Then you should be perfectly onboard with abortion. Who else should be responsible for the unborn?

    According to you, no one else should be responsible for the financial raising of the child...so it would just die if the parents couldnt do so, right?

    Why would abortion be any different?


    Didnt actually "connect the dots" in your responses, eh? Gotta use some logic in there!
    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    Your response does not track with logic, but then I know what your position is.

    Where do you get off saying that society, or some stranger off the street should be responsible for the financial raising of the child? It's the birth parents. I CLEARLY connect the dots and they run directly to you. You are responsible, and until you accept that responsibility, you have no position.
    Of course it does. If you dont believe that society should be absolved of responsibility for providing financial assistance to children when parents cannot, then where do you think the food and shelter will come from? They will die. Or they will abandon them and they will die (no foster care/adoption $$$ from taxpayers).

    If this is incorrect, tell me how?
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    Even if this were true (it's not), how many million years do you want to spread the infection over?
    RE: Italy's mortality rate
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    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    Your response does not track with logic, but then I know what your position is.

    Where do you get off saying that society, or some stranger off the street should be responsible for the financial raising of the child? It's the birth parents. I CLEARLY connect the dots and they run directly to you. You are responsible, and until you accept that responsibility, you have no position.
    Who's response does not track with logic? You again did not respond to a post but you are making posts for which no-one knows what you are responding to.

    And I say that if pro-lifers want to start banning abortion and forcing pregnant women to have children against their wishes, then the state has to pay for that ban on abortion but either paying for the children's home he will end up in or payments to the mother.

    And she would have taken her responsibility when she would have chosen an abortion, but when you banned that, you need to pay for that decision and the costs this woman now has to pay for.
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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Of course it does. If you dont believe that society should be absolved of responsibility for providing financial assistance to children when parents cannot, then where do you think the food and shelter will come from? They will die. Or they will abandon them and they will die (no foster care/adoption $$$ from taxpayers).

    If this is incorrect, tell me how?
    Ooh come on, we all know that pro-lifers are really just pro-fetus and don't really care what happens to a child later on. Well at least not as much as pro-choicers do. Progressives are much more pro-child than pro-lifers generally are. Are there a lot of exceptions to that generalization, sure, but it does not take away from the fact that conservatives are the most restrictive when it comes to helping to make sure children have homes, available parents, food and access to health care.
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