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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    Really? So, until you agree with the end result, it is dubious? Grab a piece of reality. We are trying to have a social contract, aren't we? Or do you prefer to be ignored?
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    Regarding the OP topic, is there some "social contract" where Americans have agreed that women's needs, lives, futures should be superseded by enabling the exact same things for the unborn? Not that I'm aware of. Not in any poll that's been taken.
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    Wow! What a bouquet you present. Even though you have many opposing flower genre's. The question at hand was murder. You have presented a couple of facts that don't meet that standard. If your position is that people die then so, accepted. Method and legality are still in play.
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    OMG what a beautiful example of what I described of your posting!
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    I whole heartedly agree with the second paragraph. The first however is stained with personal opinion and is unfounded. I write that with the full understanding that my views are too, personal opinion. No more or less than our own.
    Sex is certainly permissible, maybe even mandatory as a procreating animal, as we all are. The question only becomes a topic post-sex. The question here is what we do with the issue of impregnation.
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    The topic I responded to with the post you brought up was someone claiming that people who were too immature to take responsibility for having sex were not adult enough to have sex. Adulthood is a physical thing biologically and an age thing legally. It has nothing to do with your perceived level of maturity. And in fact it is just as mature to make a decision to have an abortion rather than risk poverty or worse, or even to decide not to allow a living being to be born into suffering as it is to choose to have that child. Both can be mature decisions. It is only a matter of biased opinion to think that choosing abortion is immature and not taking responsibility for your actions.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    OMG what a beautiful example of what I described of your posting!
    Uh huh. Once again you expect a reader to do your work. When you write, please then don't take the cheap out of incomplete thought, requiring a reader to fill in insinuated and hollow blanks. Please be specific and don't bother others.
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The topic I responded to with the post you brought up was someone claiming that people who were too immature to take responsibility for having sex were not adult enough to have sex. Adulthood is a physical thing biologically and an age thing legally. It has nothing to do with your perceived level of maturity. And in fact it is just as mature to make a decision to have an abortion rather than risk poverty or worse, or even to decide not to allow a living being to be born into suffering as it is to choose to have that child. Both can be mature decisions. It is only a matter of biased opinion to think that choosing abortion is immature and not taking responsibility for your actions.

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    My perceived level of maturity? From where did you glean that? Any chance you are shorting off the idea that we agree on something? Certainly that presupposition would be cowardly. You're not a coward, are you?
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    Uh huh. Once again you expect a reader to do your work. When you write, please then don't take the cheap out of incomplete thought, requiring a reader to fill in insinuated and hollow blanks. Please be specific and don't bother others.
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    No work required. Your words were quoted...any can make their own conclusions.
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    Minnie; by painless injection you are describing lethal injection like those for First degree murders. Is that an equivalent comparison you embrace? Let me give you your due = You don't feel that way. Maybe you will make a distinction more worthy of you?
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    Minnie is responding to the concern about fetal pain.
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    So am I.
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    Exactly:

    I was responding to the comment about fetal pain.

    I miscarried a very malformed fetus at about 20 weeks gestation and it gives me comfort to know it did not feel pain just like the woman in this article whose preemie son only lived a few seconds when was prematurally born at 22 and half weeks.

    A <SNIP> from the article Laws based on fetal pain are being dressed with pseudoscience

    What I know from embryology is that at 22 1/2 weeks gestational age the neural pathways for pain do not exist. This science is supported by what I’ve sadly seen as an OB/GYN witnessing deaths in the delivery room from extreme prematurity. This is also what I experienced first hand as a mother. There was no agony from extreme hypoxia and acidosis. No consciousness or awareness. Death just simply came.

    So with the body of evidence indicating neural pathways for pain don’t exist at 22 1/2 weeks and comfort care for the extremely premature babies born to die being a blanket and much more about comforting the grieving parents than anything else, why this push for fetal pain?
    Laws based on fetal pain are being dressed with pseudoscience
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    My perceived level of maturity? From where did you glean that? Any chance you are shorting off the idea that we agree on something? Certainly that presupposition would be cowardly. You're not a coward, are you?
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    You did quote me responding to someone else who believed if someone had an abortion they were showing they were not mature enough to have sex in a way insinuating you agreed with that person's view about adulthood, maturity, and sex, hence a perceived level of maturity in others based on a single decision they may make about having or not having an abortion.

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    Re: [W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Logical1 View Post
    The question is-----------if the baby aborted is not human, why are organs being harvested from them. That doesnt seem to compute.

    Any logical comments?
    Getting back to the original OP. Why do you demand logical comments when your question is not only illogical it's based on anti-abortion lies.

    A human fetus is human but it is not a born human being, it's a fetus. Some sinister group is not "harvesting" organs from babies. The woman getting a legal abortion has legally donated the tissue to research. Live tissue is very expensive to prepare and ship and the clinic is legally charging for shipping and handling.

    What other comments were you expecting?

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

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    OMG what a beautiful example of what I described of your posting!
    Thank you?
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