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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Iím am sorry.

    I am not saying only republicans are anti abortion.

    I was making a statement that the Republican party is voting to take away prescription birth control insurance.
    I thought I had replied earlier, but I must have some button wrong.
    I am a Republican and disagree strongly with removing any supplement that would deny birth control to any seeking it. Quite honestly, that is the best and least intrusive way of averting abortion. Again, I believe that reasoning crosses party lines. Some things are bigger than party affiliation.

    I must add here; you are a pleasure to correspond with. I much appreciate that your writing is clearly not snarky or dismissive. It is more that you want to discuss, but not dictate. Thank you for that.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    I thought I had replied earlier, but I must have some button wrong.
    I am a Republican and disagree strongly with removing any supplement that would deny birth control to any seeking it. Quite honestly, that is the best and least intrusive way of averting abortion. Again, I believe that reasoning crosses party lines. Some things are bigger than party affiliation.

    I must add here; you are a pleasure to correspond with. I much appreciate that your writing is clearly not snarky or dismissive. It is more that you want to discuss, but not dictate. Thank you for that.

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    I agree. Some things are bigger than party affiliation.

    It was just very frustrating after finally getting prescription birth control to be covered by insurance with no co pay to see Republicans in Congress trying to undo it.

    Once long term birth control was covered by insurance the percentage of use went up.

    Before the ACA or those who do have insurance had to pay $800 to $1000 up front for it.

    ETA.

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    Among U.S. women aged 15 to 44, the use of these long-term but reversibl contraceptives
    rose from 1.5 percent in 2002 to 7.2 percent in 2011-2013, says the report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
    Use of Long-Acting Birth Control Rises Fivefold in a Decade: CDC – WebMD

    And from a 2018 article

    [QUOTE]

    The report found that the most common contraceptive methods women use are female sterilization at 18.6 percent and the pill at 12.6 percent followed by long-acting reversible contraceptives (LARCs), which includes implants and intrauterine devices (IUDs),
    at 10.3 percent,
    Last edited by minnie616; 06-15-19 at 11:17 PM.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Sorry to late to edit my previous post.

    Here is the link to my previous posted 2018 article.

    The report found that the most common contraceptive methods women use are female sterilization at 18.6 percent and the pill at 12.6 percent followed by long-acting reversible contraceptives (LARCs), which includes implants and intrauterine devices (IUDs), at 10.3 percent,
    Almost Two-Thirds of Women in the U.S. Use Some Form of Birth Control | SELF
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    I thought I had replied earlier, but I must have some button wrong.
    I am a Republican and disagree strongly with removing any supplement that would deny birth control to any seeking it. Quite honestly, that is the best and least intrusive way of averting abortion. Again, I believe that reasoning crosses party lines. Some things are bigger than party affiliation.

    I must add here; you are a pleasure to correspond with. I much appreciate that your writing is clearly not snarky or dismissive. It is more that you want to discuss, but not dictate. Thank you for that.

    Regards,
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    I agree.

    I blather on alot about pragmatic ways of decreasing abortion rates.

    The best contraception for women are the long term forms (implantables and IUDs). But they are cost prohibitive for those most at risk for abortion (too rich for medicaid, too poor for the huge price tag.) To those who truly belive that abortion is murder, this solution should be a no brainer.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I agree.

    I blather on alot about pragmatic ways of decreasing abortion rates.

    The best contraception for women are the long term forms (implantables and IUDs). But they are cost prohibitive for those most at risk for abortion (too rich for medicaid, too poor for the huge price tag.) To those who truly belive that abortion is murder, this solution should be a no brainer.
    Thank you for your considered reply.
    I agree with birth control most emphatically! I am Conservative, but not stone age so. My wife and I practiced it until we were ready. I too can't truly side with anyone who is against preventing accidents. Traffic, reproduction, job safety, or other. I just don't understand that arm of some who wrap themselves in the Conservative brand. Though I respect and consider the view of all, I guess I just don't agree, to that degree.
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Logical1 View Post
    The question is-----------if the baby aborted is not human, why are organs being harvested from them. That doesnt seem to compute.

    Any logical comments?
    It's human.

    It's not "a human".

    And even if it were "a human", killing it would STILL be ethical.
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    When a fetus becomes human is subject to lots of debate and generates much more heat than light. From my standpoint the question is irrelevant. You simply cannot force a woman to use her body to support a fetus, whether human or not, anymore than you can force her to donate an organ or take a bullet for someone.
    Nope, fallacious logic there. Of course you can force her. SHE started it.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    Nope, fallacious logic there. Of course you can force her. SHE started it.
    Of course? You say that like itís a self evident truth. I see no ďof courseĒ here. What I do see is a lack of a cogent refutation of my argument.

    So she had sex. So what? Why does that give you the right to control her body?
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    Nope, fallacious logic there. Of course you can force her. SHE started it.
    How the **** would you know?

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    Nope, fallacious logic there. Of course you can force her. SHE started it.
    Where is that covered in the Constitution? The use of force without due process to violate someone's bodily sovereignty? Not to mention the violation of her other Constitutional rights?
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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