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[W: 594] A great question for pro abortion types

Re: A great question for pro abortion types

I agree that today certainly, sex is more than procreation. But, my point stands. It is about the use of body choice and ones own behavior that can result in unwanted pregnancy.
I understand the clear and awful difference between rape and consensual sex> I am not addressing that clear difference, which IMHO is one of few valid exception's.
Right, because that little innocent baby is so much less deserving of life. Hypocrisy at its finest.
 
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How’s this for logical? You’re barking up the wrong tree. The baby’s humanity is isn’t what matters. What matters is the woman’s right to self determination. Her right to decide what to do with her body.

No, the baby's humanity IS what matters. The woman made her "self-determination" nine months before the scheduled birth. THAT is when she made the decision of what to do with her body.
 
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I am sorry you choose to not be a friend. But, other than that, I am through bandying words with you.
Goodbye,
CP
You must be like Trump, only wanting to engage those who agree with you.
 
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No, the baby's humanity IS what matters. The woman made her "self-determination" nine months before the scheduled birth. THAT is when she made the decision of what to do with her body.

If anti-abortion bills were about protecting the life of the unborn, why does the Alabama anti-abortion law exempt in-vitro fertilization?
 
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If anti-abortion bills were about protecting the life of the unborn, why does the Alabama anti-abortion law exempt in-vitro fertilization?
Because most people in Alabama are way too stupid to grasp what they are really getting.
 
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No, the baby's humanity IS what matters. The woman made her "self-determination" nine months before the scheduled birth. THAT is when she made the decision of what to do with her body.

Deciding to have sex isn’t the same thing as deciding to have a baby.
 
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The question is-----------if the baby aborted is not human, why are organs being harvested from them. That doesnt seem to compute.

Any logical comments?

Yes, you clearly do not have a logical bone in you looking at this comment. Your whole comment does not compute.

How on earth can one "harvest organs from zygote's/embryo's/early fetuses"? They have little or no real developed organs. Maybe it happens in late abortions that were aborted due to serious medical issues and that then a body part is removed for medical research.

It is illogical to harvest tissues from fetuses who are an inch or less large, how does one harvest organs from that?

Also, elective abortion as I said previously stated prevents there ever being a baby.
 
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The question is-----------if the baby aborted is not human, why are organs being harvested from them. That doesnt seem to compute.

Any logical comments?

Logical1, your post lacks logic.

Find me one pro-choicer that believes an fetus gestating inside a human female is not human.

A fetus is human.

How about a logical thread? One that is not based on false information.
 
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You can call and unborn baby any damned thing you want to, fetus or what ever, but it is still a human being with its own DNA.

Having DNA is not sufficient to make something human, much less a human being. Flies have DNA. So do bacteria. We kill those every day with nary a second thought.

Nor is it sufficient to have human DNA to make something a human being. There's human DNA in your fingernail trimmings that (one hopes) you throw into the municipal waste stream. There's human DNA in your feces--but it's hardly a case of murder by drowning when you flush them down into the sewer.

The only thing that can be murdered is an individual consciousness, and it is almost certain that a fetus doesn't have an individual consciousness (or, more perspicuously, an individual consciousness associated with the body of the fetus) until sometime in the 6-7 month range after conception. Before that time, there is no consciousness in the body of the fetus--it's nothing more than a complex machine until that point, and there is no moral weight to aborting it until a consciousness does begin to manifest.

Killing a human being is murder.

Also not necessarily true.
 
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If anti-abortion bills were about protecting the life of the unborn, why does the Alabama anti-abortion law exempt in-vitro fertilization?

In case you haven't noticed, the Alabama bill is custom made to go to the Supreme Court. They wanted a clean bill, and that's what they wrote.
 
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Deciding to have sex isn’t the same thing as deciding to have a baby.

It is for mature partners, particularly if they practice birth control that doesn't involve killing.
 
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It is for mature partners, particularly if they practice birth control that doesn't involve killing.

Pretty much by definition a woman who has an abortion had sex for purposes other than having a child. Sure there may some edge cases where that isn’t the case but they are exceptions.
 
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The question is-----------if the baby aborted is not human, why are organs being harvested from them. That doesnt seem to compute.

Any logical comments?

Yeah; you're babbling unintelligibly.
 
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Pretty much by definition a woman who has an abortion had sex for purposes other than having a child. Sure there may some edge cases where that isn’t the case but they are exceptions.

I can't say I agree with that sentiment, but they seem to ignore the expected outcome of unprotected sex.
 
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I can't say I agree with that sentiment, but they seem to ignore the expected outcome of unprotected sex.

Fat people deserve the diseases they have coming to them!!
 
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Fat people deserve the diseases they have coming to them!!

Pregnancy is not a disease - it was the 'medical condition' which caused you to exist. Think, before you drink - even Kool-Aid.
 
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Pregnancy is not a disease - it was the 'medical condition' which caused you to exist. Think, before you drink - even Kool-Aid.

Wow. It's in the ICD 10.....doctor. lol
 
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Wow. It's in the ICD 10.....doctor. lol

Yep, as are "Z55 - Problems related to education and literacy" and "Z00 - General examination and investigation of persons without complaint and reported diagnosis", doctor. ;)
 
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I can't say I agree with that sentiment, but they seem to ignore the expected outcome of unprotected sex.

Are you aware that at least 50% of women who abort were using contraception?
 
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Are you aware that at least 50% of women who abort were using contraception?

Did they fail to read the instructions plainly printed on the condom?
 
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Did they fail to read the instructions plainly printed on the condom?

Did smokers not read the side of the pack of cigarettes????
 
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It is for mature partners, particularly if they practice birth control that doesn't involve killing.

In-vitro fertilization leads to the destruction of fertilized embryo’s that are not used in the process.

Doesn’t the destruction of fertilized embryos = destruction of life according to pro-life people?

Apparently not because they created an exemption for IVF in the Alabama bill.

Alabama state senator Clyde chambliss, who was one of the architects of the Bill, supplies the reason why that exemption was added, while inadvertently revealing the underlying motive behind these anti-abortion laws.

From an article of the guardian

During the debate about the Alabama bill Chambliss was asked why it wouldn’t apply to eggs fertilized in IVF. Chambliss replied, “The egg in the lab doesn’t apply. It’s not in a woman. She’s not pregnant.”

'Consensual rape' and 're-implantation': the times lawmakers 'misspoke' on abortion | World news | The Guardian

Funny how all that concern for the unborn disappears as soon as it is taken out of the woman’s womb...


I wonder why...
 
Re: A great question for pro abortion types

The question is-----------if the baby aborted is not human, why are organs being harvested from them. That doesnt seem to compute.

Any logical comments?

Don't flatter yourself. It wasn't a "great question."

The millions of skin cells I wash down the shower drain every day are also "human." Am I a mass murderer? No, because they're not "humans."
 
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