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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    I will answer the one clear question I see your reply...

    How can one can be for more stringent abortion laws, and still be absolutely considerate of the Mothers life?


    Very easily done. If the mother's life is in jeopardy, and that were a certainty, then the pregnancy ought be terminated, early on. I would not expect the parents(either of them) forfeit their life to bring forward an issue. That is considerate, yes?
    Not remotely. If she doesnt want to be pregnant or give birth, to suffer the pain, the sacrifices to her job and her family, etc...how is that considerate?

    Is your idea of "considerate" endorsing laws that use force against her will? That's the opposite of 'considerate.'

    I truly dont understand your use of the word. It's completely improper.

    By the way, on my home page you will note my profession. I have worked with many engineers, and technical writers. I respect your craft, but fail to see how that would lead you to believe I am dodging direct questions. I surely don't mean to do that and reject that accusation.
    You kept writing you didnt understand what I was writing, that it wasnt clear, to please clarify...I specified my profession because I knew I was indeed being very clear. Your improper use of the word 'considerate' is very concerning. I use the words as they are defined.

    As I asked before, rather than tell me what you perceive me as dodging, enumerate your specific wonder about my opinion, please my friend.
    I want constructive dialogue with you, you seem very astute and you often make thought provoking points. I do want to expand my knowledge, but I am having a hard time parsing your questions from accusation of dodging same.
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    And you're doing it here ^^^^ My writing is clear. As is your avoidance of confronting the tough questions related to a tough issue. My time is indeed wasted with you. Please stop acting like you want open and honest discourse. You take passive-aggression as a diversion tactic to epic proportions that I have not seen here on the forum before.

    And no, I do not respect that in the least. Bye.
    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Not remotely. If she doesnt want to be pregnant or give birth, to suffer the pain, the sacrifices to her job and her family, etc...how is that considerate?

    Is your idea of "considerate" endorsing laws that use force against her will? That's the opposite of 'considerate.'

    I truly dont understand your use of the word. It's completely improper.



    You kept writing you didnt understand what I was writing, that it wasnt clear, to please clarify...I specified my profession because I knew I was indeed being very clear. Your improper use of the word 'considerate' is very concerning. I use the words as they are defined.



    And you're doing it here ^^^^ My writing is clear. As is your avoidance of confronting the tough questions related to a tough issue. My time is indeed wasted with you. Please stop acting like you want open and honest discourse. You take passive-aggression as a diversion tactic to epic proportions that I have not seen here on the forum before.

    And no, I do not respect that in the least. Bye.
    I don't recall ever saying I didn't understand what you were writing. I do recall having a problem separating your narrative from your questions during our short exchange. No matter. Neither of us has convinced the other and I accept that. Maybe it was my fault, though I was being genuine.
    I still respect your intellect. I am guessing we just can't communicate well in a forum as is this one on this divisive topic. Goodbye from here, and good luck. I still look forward to discourse on other topics, no prejudice will be carried forward from me toward you.
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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    I don't recall ever saying I didn't understand what you were writing. I do recall having a problem separating your narrative from your questions during our short exchange. No matter. Neither of us has convinced the other and I accept that. Maybe it was my fault, though I was being genuine.
    I still respect your intellect. I am guessing we just can't communicate well in a forum as is this one on this divisive topic. Goodbye from here, and good luck. I still look forward to discourse on other topics, no prejudice will be carried forward from me toward you.
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    And I'm sorry that you dont seem to know what the use of question marks as punctuation mean. That does indeed make productive discussion difficult. Or the definition of words such as 'absolutely' and 'considerate,' esp. when you are the one introducing them in your discourse.

    All these can be remedied of course, by further investment in language studies. I hope that someday, you will benefit from such and then, perhaps, be able to share your position on abortion more effectively.

    I look forward to that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    Point 1}You couldn't be more wrong. All impregnated women are mothers. Up until delivery, or termination by other means
    Merriam Webster below-
    Definition of mother (Entry 1 of 4)
    1
    a
    : a female parent .
    Point 2) Where did you get that percentage? It is so very lunch bucket, and antithetical as to be worthy only of dismission.
    Point 3)Anyone who has ever crossed swords with their progeny has fantasized about that. Thank God, it is only a passing and forgotten fantasy. Of the mothers who regret having given birth; in that group lies the best, and most loved of all of us.

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    Until she has given birth or adopted, a woman is not a mother.

    Pardon me, it's 59%. Mea culpa. Characteristics of U.S. Abortion Patients in 2014 and Changes Since 2008 | Guttmacher Institute

    I have no idea what you are going on about with the rest of your post.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Until she has given birth or adopted, a woman is not a mother.

    Pardon me, it's 59%. Mea culpa. Characteristics of U.S. Abortion Patients in 2014 and Changes Since 2008 | Guttmacher Institute

    I have no idea what you are going on about with the rest of your post.
    When I was pregnant I said..."I am going to be a mother" (future tense) or "I am going to have a baby" future tense.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Abortion is 14 times safer than pregnancy/childbirth. And the deaths cannot be predicted nor prevented...every single pregnancy risks a woman's life. Even Drs cant predict all the emergencies that take women's lives. This is fact.

    So people that would force that decision on women, the less safe choice...how are they considerate of the woman's life? It's clear they place the life of the unborn before the woman's. And it is far far from being 'absolutely considerate' as you wrote. Do you deny this? Can you explain it?
    Pregnancy is not a life threatening condition.


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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Stopandthink View Post
    Pregnancy is not a life threatening condition.


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    I beg to differ. I had 2 life threatening disorders of pregnancy - when I went into my pregnancy I was healthy and had excellent resources. My doctor (very skilled, who knew me ) saw a very subtle sign and decided to do further testing. I felt fine. When they did further testing it was found that my kidneys were taking a huge hit. I am alive with functioning kidneys because I had proper resources and access to an experienced practitioner that was not rushed . I am alive because I had the financial resources to miss work to make each and every appointment. I had resources that most women who chose abortion do not have.

    Pregnancy can turn into a life threatening condition with little to no warning. And a woman with little to no resources is even more in danger. I will thank you not to under rate the risks of pregnancy.

    I did survive my pregnancy. When all was said and done, I have some kidney and vascular issues because of my pregnancy 25 years ago. I was off 6 months from work and went deeply in debt keeping up with rent, COBRA, etc. I was LUCKY that I kept my job and seniority.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Stopandthink View Post
    Pregnancy is not a life threatening condition.


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    Incorrect. Every single pregnancy risks a woman's life. And it cannot always be predicted or prevented (obviously, since about 1000 women/yr die during pregnancy/childbirth and another 87,000 nearly do (stroke, kidney failure, aneurysm, pre-eclampsia, etc).
    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Incorrect. Every single pregnancy risks a woman's life. And it cannot always be predicted or prevented (obviously, since about 1000 women/yr die during pregnancy/childbirth and another 87,000 nearly do (stroke, kidney failure, aneurysm, pre-eclampsia, etc).
    And think of what the statistics for women who are not in a position to be pregnant (poor social/medical/financial resources/housing insecure) would be if they were forced to remain pregnant without adequate resources - clearly the stats would be worse.

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    Re: A great question for pro abortion types

    Quote Originally Posted by Logical1 View Post
    If she decided she didnt want a baby why didnt her and her pardner be responsible and have safe sex???? Killing a baby is murder and for the reason she and her pardner were not responsible???????????
    You move from one faulty premise, to another, then a third. You do it so smoothly and gracefully, one would think you practice this at home like dance moves to impress next Saturday.

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