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[W:293]Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human

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Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
 
Re: Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human

Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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NOPE...opinions were posted. Logic had nothing whatsoever to do with said opinions that were posted. ( fact )
 
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Killing a live human isn't inherently wrong. But then again, a fetus is not a person.
 
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Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:
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1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
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yes

2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
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No, that is your opinion. There are many circumstances where killing is justified. Abortion is one of them.


3. There are laws that allow abortion.
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Yes, based on SCOTUS finding that women have a right to abortion, protected by the Constitution.

4. These laws allow something wrong.
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That's just your opinion again.

5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.
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Also your opinion but since you havent shown why it's wrong, it's even easier to dismiss simple statements such as yours.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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Er no. There was no logic here until I posted clarifications.
 
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Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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Nice try, but no.
 
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Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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Bull crap, it is only your delusion.
 
Re: Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human

prometeus said:
Bull crap, it is only your delusion.
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It's not my fault that you do not know how logic works.
 
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Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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Wow, when were the definitions of logic and biased opinion swapped?
 
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RaleBulgarian said:
Wow, when were the definitions of logic and biased opinion swapped?
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How is it "biased opinion"?
 
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Wan said:
Biased opinion? Are you referring to #2?
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And 4 & 5 :)
 
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Wan said:
How is it "biased opinion"?
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Because “biased opinion” correctly defines your first post.
 
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Wan said:
It's not my fault that you do not know how logic works.
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Beware of trolls, Wan. The scent of logic brings them out of the woodwork.
 
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Lursa said:
No, that is your opinion. There are many circumstances where killing is justified. Abortion is one of them.
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There are not many. The law in every state defines when the use of deadly force is allowed. And besides Texas, and law enforcement, the use of deadly force is restricted to stopping a deadly threat.
 
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Wan said:
Zinger.
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Much of what passes for wit in internet chat can be traced back to the influence of Pee Wee Herman on a generation of intellectual slackers.
 
Re: Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human

Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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We thinking members appreciate your candor and your clarity, Wan.

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
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Fact.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
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Fact.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
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Fact.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
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Fact.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.
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At the very least these laws have to be purged of their legal fictions denying the humanity of the victims of abortion. These legal fictions have lent themselves to the promotion of an abortion culture by the morally impoverished culture of narcissism that has dominated cultural dynamics for the last fifty years.
 
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Wan said:
...Believe it.
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I believe your recent analogy is also on point:

proponents of slavery in 1850s:the denial of full humanity to slaves::proponents of abortion today:the denial of full humanity to unborn children
 
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Logician Man said:
NOPE...opinions were posted. Logic had nothing whatsoever to do with said opinions that were posted. ( fact )
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Nope. The only opinion stated in that post was that killing human beings is wrong, the rest is just plain science. If that is the point you want to contend then have at it, I suppose. :roll:
 
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jmotivator said:
Nope. The only opinion stated in that post was that killing human beings is wrong, the rest is just plain science. If that is the point you want to contend then have at it, I suppose. :roll:
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Which numbers are you contending are 'just plain science'? And please explain precisely what field (s) of science those respective numbers are found in. :thinking
 
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Logician Man said:
Which numbers are you contending are 'just plain science'? And please explain precisely what field (s) of science those respective numbers are found in. :thinking
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What "numbers" are you talking about?

From fertilization you have a living organism by the Biological definition of a living organism. By it's DNA we know it is a living human. That is the science.

The only opinion stated in that statement was that killing a living human is wrong. That is your point of contention, and the contention of all abortion rights advocates, that killing that living human should be OK.
 
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jmotivator said:
What "numbers" are you talking about?

From fertilization you have a living organism by the Biological definition of a living organism. By it's DNA we know it is a living human. That is the science.

The only opinion stated in that statement was that killing a living human is wrong. That is your point of contention, and the contention of all abortion rights advocates, that killing that living human should be OK.
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There are only 4 remaining options in the OP post, since you admit one is an opinion. The rest you claim are 'just plain science.' My question still stands. Tell us what field(s) of science those numbers can be found in and verified to actually be based in science.
 
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Wan said:
Hi. I just want to say the following:

1. Abortion is the deliberate killing of a live human.
2. The deliberate killing of a live human is wrong.
3. There are laws that allow abortion.
4. These laws allow something wrong.
5. Therefore, these laws need to be changed.

Yes people, logic just happened. Believe it.
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Nope, I don't believe it because it clearly is illogical.

1. abortion is the abortion of a ZEF in the early stages of gestation
2. it is not a live human/not a human being/not a person and only the deliberate illegal killing of another human being/person by another human being/person. None of this has anything to do with elective abortion.
3. there are laws that allow abortion, thank goodness.
4. these laws allow something legal and appropriate, namely the freedom of choce
5. there for you should stop interfering in the private medical decisions of women, Not your body, not your womb, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, all you right wing interfering busybodies.
 
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CMPancake said:
Killing a live human isn't inherently wrong. But then again, a fetus is not a person.
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Heard that argument before.

So when someone want's to terminate you. All they have to do is declare that you're not human and it'll be completely legitimate for them to do.
 
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Logician Man said:
There are only 4 remaining options in the OP post, since you admit one is an opinion. The rest you claim are 'just plain science.' My question still stands. Tell us what field(s) of science those numbers can be found in and verified to actually be based in science.
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What numbers are you talking about? The argument is based on the assertion that the unborn are living humans, which is science, and that killing humans is wrong, which is an opinion. In order to disagree with the argument derived from those assertions you have to disagree with one of those underlying assertions.. which one is it you disagree with?
 
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