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Abortion - Holocaust against Human Rights

KAG2020

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The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights | America Magazine

I am an atheist, a 29-year-old woman, well-educated at secular institutions, and I lean liberal on many issues, including same-sex marriage and climate change.

I am also a dedicated pro-life activist, working to make abortion unthinkable.

The abortion industry would have you believe that people like me do not exist. They would have you believe that the pro-life movement is almost exclusively old white men, with a few pearl-clutching church ladies thrown in. This characterization is insulting to both young and old. The older pro-life leaders of today are the pioneering young adult activists of the 1970s, who courageously dissented from Roe v. Wade. And they have recruited new generations of pro-lifers to follow in their footsteps; millennials in the movement call ourselves the “pro-life generation.”
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KAG2020 said:
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights
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And good for her being Pro-Life. I have no problem with pro-life people as they are more than encouraged to keep their pro-life views and apply them to their OWN lives and bodies. Where Pro-lifers become a problem is when they deem that a woman should be forced to carry to term something she doesn't want to so with her OWN body. If pro-lifers REALLY wanted to save fetuses and zygotes, they would invest THEIR OWN money into research into how a zygote/fetus can be safely transferred from a woman's body to an incubator instead of forcing a woman to carry to term. But alas, they do not so the hypocrites that want to force a woman to do something she doesn't want to do with her own body can **** OFF!
 
zyzygy said:
Abortion will never be unthinkable. Controlling other people's bodies should be unthinkable.
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What should be unthinkable is ignorant statements like yours. Preventing children from being murdered has nothing to do with controlling peoples' bodies. The baby is not part of the woman's body. DNA Science proves that. You are a science denier, and not too bright of one at that.
 
KAG2020 said:
What should be unthinkable is ignorant statements like yours. Preventing children from being murdered has nothing to do with controlling peoples' bodies. The baby is not part of the woman's body. DNA Science proves that. You are a science denier, and not too bright of one at that.
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Seeing as how the child must first gestate in the womb for nine months, banning abortion by necessity must involve controlling women's bodies, by dictating how they can and cannot behave during pregnancy.
 
KAG2020 said:
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights | America Magazine
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Making abortion unthinkable is not possible. So long as there are pregnant women without the resources or desire to properly take care of children, there will always be a demand for abortion services. No amount of moral repugnancy will change this equation, because it is not fundamentally a question of morality, but rather one of economics, supply and demand.
 
KAG2020 said:
What should be unthinkable is ignorant statements like yours. Preventing children from being murdered has nothing to do with controlling peoples' bodies. The baby is not part of the woman's body. DNA Science proves that. You are a science denier, and not too bright of one at that.
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The ZEF is INSIDE OF AND ATTACHED TO her body. That makes it HER choice whether to gestate it or not.

Children being murdered has nothing to do w/ it. It is illegal to murder children. Nobody is trying to change that.
 
KAG2020 said:
What should be unthinkable is ignorant statements like yours. Preventing children from being murdered has nothing to do with controlling peoples' bodies. The baby is not part of the woman's body. DNA Science proves that. You are a science denier, and not too bright of one at that.
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#1. Murder is illegal.

#2. Children are people who have been born. Hence why you cannot claim a fetus as a dependent for taxes.

I know I know you hate that words have meaning and not your emotional wordsmithing. There are no children being murdered. Looks like KAG bites the dust again. :lamo
 
KAG2020 said:
What should be unthinkable is ignorant statements like yours. Preventing children from being murdered has nothing to do with controlling peoples' bodies. The baby is not part of the woman's body. DNA Science proves that. You are a science denier, and not too bright of one at that.
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No children are murdered. Murder is illegal. Thread fail. Next please.
 
KAG2020 said:
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights
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Perhaps you would be interested in knowing that there are no national or global human rights organizations (outside of religious orgs) that support a right to life for the unborn. All recognize that supporting women in communities is the means to greater stability, productivity, healthier families, and less abuse.

So...another failed thread for you.
 
Lursa said:
Perhaps you would be interested in knowing that there are no national or global human rights organizations (outside of religious orgs) that support a right to life for the unborn.........
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I don't care. Most of them are run by frauds and socialists anyway, promoting some nefarious agenda or another.

Besides, and don't give a damm what some losers from countries who have no rights thing. This is America, and we have fundamental rights here, and the first of those is our right to LIVE and not be murdered by someone else.

Abortion is murder. Period. Wise up and get with reality.
 
KAG2020 said:
I don't care. Most of them are run by frauds and socialists anyway, promoting some nefarious agenda or another.

Besides, and don't give a damm what some losers from countries who have no rights thing. This is America, and we have fundamental rights here, and the first of those is our right to LIVE and not be murdered by someone else.

Abortion is murder. Period. Wise up and get with reality.
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The unborn have no rights in America either.

And perhaps you should concern yourself more with 'reality'. There is no murder and the unborn have no rights, in America you must be a person to be recognized as equal and having rights.

1 U.S. Code SS 8 - “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.

(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
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KAG2020 said:
I don't care. Most of them are run by frauds and socialists anyway, promoting some nefarious agenda or another.

Besides, and don't give a damm what some losers from countries who have no rights thing. This is America, and we have fundamental rights here, and the first of those is our right to LIVE and not be murdered by someone else.

Abortion is murder. Period. Wise up and get with reality.
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In the US, corporations are treated as persons and are given rights (see corporate personhood) yet the unborn, who are actual humans, have no rights. This doesn't make sense.
 
Wan said:
In the US, corporations are treated as persons and are given rights (see corporate personhood) yet the unborn, who are actual humans, have no rights. This doesn't make sense.
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It makes very good sense, since born and unborn cannot be treated equally under the law. To protect the right to life of the unborn, many of women's Constitutional rights would be violated, and also our rights to bodily sovereignty and self-determination.

So society makes the choice in favor of valuing born people more, as they are already contributing members of society...the unborn may never achieve live birth or may suffer severe defects.
 
KAG2020 said:
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights
The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights | America Magazine
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an atheists case i believe gods are made up and that abortion is fine because a fetus has never gained the trait that make other humans deserving of a right to life which is their intelligence

but hey if you can find a fetus that tells you it wants to live or a pig or a cow or a chicken that says the same thing you will probably have a case
 
KAG2020 said:
What should be unthinkable is ignorant statements like yours. Preventing children from being murdered has nothing to do with controlling peoples' bodies. The baby is not part of the woman's body. DNA Science proves that. You are a science denier, and not too bright of one at that.
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children like born humans ya it sems pretty bad to kill them becase all but a very limited age range seem to have intelligence beyond those of the animals we kill in mass but why would killing a fetus be bad?
 
Wan said:
In the US, corporations are treated as persons and are given rights (see corporate personhood) yet the unborn, who are actual humans, have no rights. This doesn't make sense.
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i know right corporation should not have the human rights given to humans based on ther thoughts and feelings same as a fetus
 
blarg said:
an atheists case i believe gods are made up and that abortion is fine because a fetus has never gained the trait that make other humans deserving of a right to life which is their intelligence

but hey if you can find a fetus that tells you it wants to live or a pig or a cow or a chicken that says the same thing you will probably have a case
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So if there is a person who is severely retarded and can't tell you he wants to live, it's OK to kill him?
 
Wan said:
So if there is a person who is severely retarded and can't tell you he wants to live, it's OK to kill him?
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if ther no smarter than the animals we kill yes if its done in a humane way on par with how we sluthjer those other creatures

with permission of who ever is responsible for that human of course
 
Wan said:
So if there is a person who is severely retarded and can't tell you he wants to live, it's OK to kill him?
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Assisting that person doesnt violate the rights of someone else (if that someone else does not consent).
 
KAG2020 said:
I don't care. Most of them are run by frauds and socialists anyway, promoting some nefarious agenda or another.

Besides, and don't give a damm what some losers from countries who have no rights thing. This is America, and we have fundamental rights here, and the first of those is our right to LIVE and not be murdered by someone else.

Abortion is murder. Period. Wise up and get with reality.
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Abortion is not murder. Wise up.
 
blarg said:
if ther no smarter than the animals we kill yes if its done in a humane way on par with how we sluthjer those other creatures

with permission of who ever is responsible for that human of course
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So they routinely execute retarded people in your country? If you live in the West, you are just making this up.
 
KAG2020 said:
I don't care. Most of them are run by frauds and socialists anyway, promoting some nefarious agenda or another.

Besides, and don't give a damm what some losers from countries who have no rights thing. This is America, and we have fundamental rights here, and the first of those is our right to LIVE and not be murdered by someone else.

Abortion is murder. Period. Wise up and get with reality.
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You're a real control freak.
 
KAG2020 said:
I don't care. Most of them are run by frauds and socialists anyway, promoting some nefarious agenda or another.

Besides, and don't give a damm what some losers from countries who have no rights thing. This is America, and we have fundamental rights here, and the first of those is our right to LIVE and not be murdered by someone else.

Abortion is murder. Period. Wise up and get with reality.
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You’ve already been proven wrong. Murder is illegal. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder. Words and law have meaning, sorry you do not like them but oh well, that’s your problem.
 
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