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Re: A critique of reason
Btw, it's not about the site that was cited. It's about the scientific facts.
But, just so to cater to you, and to help put your skepticism at rest..... Princeton University provides a list of various scientific references:
Now....it's your turn.
Provide scientific references that say human life does not start at fertilization.
Yah. If this were a butcher shop, I'd check to make sure you weren't putting your thumb on the scales. Evolution News is
"Evolution News & Science Today[edit]
"CSC publishes the blog Evolution News & Science Today (formerly Evolution News & Views) (often shortened to Evolution News (EN))."
& who is CSC?
"The Center for Science and Culture (CSC), formerly known as the Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture (CRSC), is part of the Discovery Institute (DI), a conservative Christian think tank[2] in the United States. The CSC lobbies for the inclusion of creationism in the form of intelligent design (ID) in public-school science curricula as an explanation for the origins of life and the universe while casting doubt on the theory of evolution.[3] These positions have been rejected by the scientific community, which identifies intelligent design as pseudoscientific neo-creationism, whereas the theory of evolution is overwhelmingly accepted as a matter of scientific consensus.[4]
"The Center for Science and Culture serves as the hub of the intelligent design movement. Nearly all of prominent proponents of intelligent design are either CSC advisors, officers, or fellows. Stephen C. Meyer, a former vice president of the Discovery Institute and founder of the CSC, serves as a Senior Fellow, and Phillip E. Johnson is the Program Advisor. Johnson is commonly presented as the movement's "father" and architect of the Center's Wedge strategy and "Teach the Controversy" campaign, as well as the Santorum Amendment."
Both cites from Center for Science and Culture - Wikipedia
(My emphasis - more @ the URL)
So - to coin a phrase, the output of CSC is merely special pleading & propaganda. That's why I fixed the first two lines I quoted above.
NAAPC is
"About
"The National Association for the Advancement of Preborn Children was founded by Martin Palmer, a practicing attornery and member of American Bar Association, the Maryland Bar Association, the American Trial Lawyers, the Maryland Trial Lawyers Association, and an honoree in Who’s Who in American Law. Mr. Palmer completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Maryland, College Park, Maryland, and received his Law Degree from the University of Baltimore School of Law .
"Mr. Palmer represented Chris Fritz in a father’s rights in abortion case; obtained preliminary injunction to prevent his wife from aborting their second child. Dr. Bernard Nathanson testified on behalf of the preborn child.
"Coleman v. Coleman, Court of Special Appeals of Maryland, 1984
"Another father’s rights in abortion case which originated in Rockville, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, DC, in which both Dr. Jerome Lejeune of Paris, France, and Dr. Bernard Nathanson of New York City testified as to the equal humanity and personhood of the preborn child."
(My emphasis - more @ About - NAAPC)
I'm sure Mr. Palmer is sincere in his beliefs. Does he have a background in the medicine, biology, ethics of conception? I don't see any of that noted on his site - which I would expect to see, if he had it. So - should we simply take his word on the issues @ hand?
The testimony cited in 1981 above was during President Reagan's administration - a great disappointment to the anti-abortion forces, I'm sure, as he made nice noises but didn't take any substantive action. However, it was early days for the anti-abortion groups - they had come late to the realization that they had an issue. & so it goes.
Btw, it's not about the site that was cited. It's about the scientific facts.
But, just so to cater to you, and to help put your skepticism at rest..... Princeton University provides a list of various scientific references:
Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's ConceptionLife Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:
Now....it's your turn.
Provide scientific references that say human life does not start at fertilization.
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