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Atheist 2020

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As a social democrat, I think of myself as Western Europe or the Nordic Countries. American Conservatives make the argument that a welfare state keeps people receiving welfare checks. I agree, there are people that abuse the welfare state. The way to end the ability to receive welfare from generation fro generation, is to have forced abortions. The place that has the highest generational welfare, is in the deepest red states. The forced abortions, will limit the ability to produce extra white Christian children. The over producing of children, is not so much the African American community. In fact, it is the white Christian communities.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
As a social democrat, I think of myself as Western Europe or the Nordic Countries. American Conservatives make the argument that a welfare state keeps people receiving welfare checks. I agree, there are people that abuse the welfare state. The way to end the ability to receive welfare from generation fro generation, is to have forced abortions. The place that has the highest generational welfare, is in the deepest red states. The forced abortions, will limit the ability to produce extra white Christian children. The over producing of children, is not so much the African American community. In fact, it is the white Christian communities.
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On the presumption that you are not simply being a Poe:

Hey Lursa? Would you and all the real pro-choice advocates please come in here? An actual fascist has taken the stand.
 
Felis Leo said:
On the presumption that you are not simply being a Poe:

Hey Lursa? Would you and all the real pro-choice advocates please come in here? An actual fascist has taken the stand.
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I cannot speak for Lursa, but I doubt anyone with a thinking mind wishes to engage this individual.
 
Felis Leo said:
On the presumption that you are not simply being a Poe:

Hey Lursa? Would you and all the real pro-choice advocates please come in here? An actual fascist has taken the stand.
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I am not a fascist, I am a social democrat. A number of countries limit the number of welfare mothers.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
I am not a fascist, I am a social democrat. A number of countries limit the number of welfare mothers.
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Which of these countries force pregnant women to abort children on the basis of their race and religion?
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Finland
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The government of Finland forces women to have abortions? Like China does by forcing women to the abortion clinic? Really?

One would think someone would have notified the Hague.
 
Felis Leo said:
The government of Finland forces women to have abortions? Like China does by forcing women to the abortion clinic? Really?

One would think someone would have notified the Hague.
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Since the 1960's.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
The reason you do not want to engage, because you would be proven wrong.
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Actually, I see no reason to engage in commentary that is very clearly meant to create ire rather then discussion. Being Atheist and disliking religion in general I do not wish to be a prick about pointing out the ignorance they display rather than just letting them do it naturally.
 
Felis Leo said:
Could you please source this?
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I do not read or write in the language of Finland. But, there is a great deal of evidence in English dealing with abortions in China and India. With India, the abortions happens because the child is female. With America, there is upward movement for both genders. I am talking about the use of abortions to decrease welfare.

America has done it before, but with sterilization. Case in point, Puerto Rico during the 1950's with the female population. During the 1950's, wealthy people from Puerto Rico was leaving the island and moving into the Jim Crow south. Its the 1950's, your from Puerto Rico and you are in the Jim Crow south -- what bathroom do you go into -- whites or colored. So, to keep the people on the island, sterilization was used. Second, before the pill was legal for women. It was field tested in Puerto Rico to see what medication was good for women and what was not.

Puerto Rico at one time, had the highest percentage of women in the world who were sterilize. Done by the federal government, on the highest percentage of Catholics. John XXIII and Paul VI was silent with the sterilization.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
I do not read or write in the language of Finland. But, there is a great deal of evidence in English dealing with abortions in China and India. With India, the abortions happens because the child is female. With America, there is upward movement for both genders. I am talking about the use of abortions to decrease welfare.

America has done it before, but with sterilization. Case in point, Puerto Rico during the 1950's with the female population. During the 1950's, wealthy people from Puerto Rico was leaving the island and moving into the Jim Crow south. Its the 1950's, your from Puerto Rico and you are in the Jim Crow south -- what bathroom do you go into -- whites or colored. So, to keep the people on the island, sterilization was used. Second, before the pill was legal for women. It was field tested in Puerto Rico to see what medication was good for women and what was not.

Puerto Rico at one time, had the highest percentage of women in the world who were sterilize. Done by the federal government, on the highest percentage of Catholics. John XXIII and Paul VI was silent with the sterilization.
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So in other words you have no proof.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
I do not read or write in the language of Finland. But, there is a great deal of evidence in English dealing with abortions in China and India. With India, the abortions happens because the child is female. With America, there is upward movement for both genders. I am talking about the use of abortions to decrease welfare.

America has done it before, but with sterilization. Case in point, Puerto Rico during the 1950's with the female population. During the 1950's, wealthy people from Puerto Rico was leaving the island and moving into the Jim Crow south. Its the 1950's, your from Puerto Rico and you are in the Jim Crow south -- what bathroom do you go into -- whites or colored. So, to keep the people on the island, sterilization was used. Second, before the pill was legal for women. It was field tested in Puerto Rico to see what medication was good for women and what was not.

Puerto Rico at one time, had the highest percentage of women in the world who were sterilize. Done by the federal government, on the highest percentage of Catholics. John XXIII and Paul VI was silent with the sterilization.
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I'll go on record as saying I don't at all take your eugenics fantasies to be representative of social democrats.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
How to Hide an Empire
A History of the Greater United States
Author: Daniel Immerwahr
Published 2019
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You were supposed to provide proof of your absurd claim that Finland has forced abortions on ethnic groups since the '60s. What you think THIS refers to is less than clear.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
How to Hide an Empire
A History of the Greater United States
Author: Daniel Immerwahr
Published 2019
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A book called How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States has proof that Finland forces abortions on women?
 
Atheist 2020 said:
As a social democrat, I think of myself as Western Europe or the Nordic Countries. American Conservatives make the argument that a welfare state keeps people receiving welfare checks. I agree, there are people that abuse the welfare state. The way to end the ability to receive welfare from generation fro generation, is to have forced abortions. The place that has the highest generational welfare, is in the deepest red states. The forced abortions, will limit the ability to produce extra white Christian children. The over producing of children, is not so much the African American community. In fact, it is the white Christian communities.
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LMAO!!!

in before the flush!!!
:eek:uch:
 
Carjosse said:
A book called How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States has proof that Finland forces abortions on women?
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With that, you have to deal with my Western Civilization college professor. With the rest, you have to read a book. Forced abortions is very common, like China and in India. True, it does produce a larger male population that end up being single for the rest of their lives. True, China is dealing with a aging population and the younger population has social and economic problems because of the policy of the one child policy. But, that has changed to allow two children. True, the policy came about of the troubled 1970's, but, without the policy greater problems would have happened with the ability to feed the population. I support the China policy.
 
Felis Leo said:
On the presumption that you are not simply being a Poe:

Hey Lursa? Would you and all the real pro-choice advocates please come in here? An actual fascist has taken the stand.
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I don't agree w/ forced abortions, but I do agree that something needs to be done about welfare.
 
Felis Leo said:
On the presumption that you are not simply being a Poe:

Hey Lursa? Would you and all the real pro-choice advocates please come in here? An actual fascist has taken the stand.
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The individual that created the OP is someone that has not previously demonstrated a line of thought (on many subjects) that I find comprehensible..

However...it's not my business if he posts it. Sometimes we all need reminders of who is out in the real world....
 
Atheist 2020 said:
As a social democrat, I think of myself as Western Europe or the Nordic Countries. American Conservatives make the argument that a welfare state keeps people receiving welfare checks. I agree, there are people that abuse the welfare state. The way to end the ability to receive welfare from generation fro generation, is to have forced abortions. The place that has the highest generational welfare, is in the deepest red states. The forced abortions, will limit the ability to produce extra white Christian children. The over producing of children, is not so much the African American community. In fact, it is the white Christian communities.
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Two major logic errors.

First, Christians are not made through birth, but through teaching. Thus even sterile Christians can make more Christians. A forced abortion cannot solve this issue.

Secondly, within the US, blacks comprise the majority of those on welfare. Those targeting those whites on welfare, while certainly having an impact, only hit a small part of those on welfare, leaving the majority still receiving it. Additionally, people go on and off welfare all the time. At one time I was on food stamps, and was off within a 2 year period. What purpose would having forced my wife to have an abortion serve?

Also, even limiting to white people, there are Jews, Muslims, pagans, and even atheists on welfare, and over multiple generations. Does your plan target them as well, or only white Christians?

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Atheist 2020 said:
Finland
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Finland forces white Christians to have abortions, but not black or Asian Christians? They force white Christians to have an abortion but not white Jews?

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maquiscat said:
Two major logic errors.

First, Christians are not made through birth, but through teaching. Thus even sterile Christians can make more Christians. A forced abortion cannot solve this issue.

Secondly, within the US, blacks comprise the majority of those on welfare. Those targeting those whites on welfare, while certainly having an impact, only hit a small part of those on welfare, leaving the majority still receiving it. Additionally, people go on and off welfare all the time. At one time I was on food stamps, and was off within a 2 year period. What purpose would having forced my wife to have an abortion serve?

Also, even limiting to white people, there are Jews, Muslims, pagans, and even atheists on welfare, and over multiple generations. Does your plan target them as well, or only white Christians?
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Logic and the law would say, anyone within the system will have to face a abortion. Regardless if they are Christian or not.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
With that, you have to deal with my Western Civilization college professor. With the rest, you have to read a book. Forced abortions is very common, like China and in India. True, it does produce a larger male population that end up being single for the rest of their lives. True, China is dealing with a aging population and the younger population has social and economic problems because of the policy of the one child policy. But, that has changed to allow two children. True, the policy came about of the troubled 1970's, but, without the policy greater problems would have happened with the ability to feed the population. I support the China policy.
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So where's your documentation that Finland has forced abortions upon ethnic groups since the '60s?

Have you abandoned that?
 
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