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When its too late for an abortion

Originally Posted by Lursa
Since you wont ever be in the position to have an abortion, that statement is meaningless. And doesnt mean you wouldnt use your voting power to try and make changes.
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Waddy said:
So not ever being in a position to have an abortion disqualifies me from having an opinion?
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Now you answer my question directly.
 
Lursa said:
Nope, that has nothing to do with my response. Here's the exchange:





It's meaningless for you to say you will comply with a law when you can never break that law. And as my 2nd sentence pointed out, you avoided a direct answer to his question.
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Anyone can break a law. You want a direct answer; I always vote for individual rights for every human being.
 
Waddy said:
You want a direct answer; I always vote for individual rights for every human being.
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you mean except for pregnant women :shrug:
 
Waddy said:
Anyone can break a law. You want a direct answer; I always vote for individual rights for every human being.
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Excellent!

1 U.S. Code: SS 8 “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.

(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
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And btw, I'd love to hear how a man can have an 'illegal' abortion. Please do explain.
 
Lursa said:
Excellent!



And btw, I'd love to hear how a man can have an 'illegal' abortion. Please do explain.
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He could be the one conducting the illegal abortion.
 
Waddy said:
He could be the one conducting the illegal abortion.
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The point was that a male wouldnt be affected by the law either way.

Drs would still practice, just not perform that procedure.

And women would just get the abortion pills from Canada.
 
Lursa said:
Then that would be a medical law broken, not an illegal abortion.
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It would be both.

But tell me; would you obey the law if abortions were illegal?
 
Waddy said:
It would be both.
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It would force 'nothing' on men. A Dr. has skills for more than one procedure.

It would force women to only one course if there's a pregnancy.
 
Lursa said:
It would force 'nothing' on men. A Dr. has skills for more than one procedure.

It would force women to only one course if there's a pregnancy.
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So, we're changing the subject?

Would you obey the law if abortion were illegal?
 
Re: Every citizen gets a vote

Waddy said:
Originally Posted by Scrabaholic post 609


So, you see, there are people radicalized enough to believe that even something as admirable as adoption is wrong. Amazing, is it not?
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I believe forcing the woman to allow the pregnancy to continue to full term for adoption instead of an abortion is what was being said. And I agree that would be wrong.
 
Waddy said:
As will you, I will go along with whatever the duly elected representatives of the people in this democratic country and our Supreme Court decides.
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I think it is obvious that I fully accept the existing law.
 
Waddy said:
Where have I demonized women in any way? Or are you engaging in wishful thinking? A little spin for the cause, maybe? I've been married for almost 50 years, and have a grown married daughter among my offspring. But I would counsel any woman to birth her baby. Give it up for adoption if need be, but don't kill the baby. However, in the end, and all through history, that choice has always been the woman's choice.
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You initiated use of the word "demonize".
And it should remain so.
 
Re: Every citizen gets a vote

Individual said:
I believe forcing the woman to allow the pregnancy to continue to full term for adoption instead of an abortion is what was being said. And I agree that would be wrong.
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He specifically said adoption was wrong. He said nothing about force. He said it was wrong, and he would never do that. own it.
 
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Waddy said:
I endorse rights for EVERY human being. Nice try, though....
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actually facts prove otherwise . . no try just success you posting lies about that fact wont change it.
 
Re: Every citizen gets a vote

Waddy said:
He specifically said adoption was wrong. He said nothing about force. He said it was wrong, and he would never do that.
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I think we all agree, adoption is a choice, that the woman can make if she wants.
 
Waddy said:
Show me what you're talking about. being vague doesn't help your cause.
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Just read your post that I had both quoted and responded to.
 
AGENT J said:
actually facts prove otherwise . . no try just success you posting lies about that fact wont change it.
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LMAO.. what facts are those? or are you grasping at straws again? remember, play nice, we don't want no button pushing around here......
 
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Individual said:
I think we all agree, adoption is a choice, that the woman can make if she wants.
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I think we all agree there's nothing wrong with trying to talk her out of it. And that we all need to respect the law; whatever it is....
 
Waddy said:
LMAO.. what facts are those? or are you grasping at straws again? remember, play nice, we don't want no button pushing around here......
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I always play nice, the facts of your own views and words. It proves when you claim "you always support individual rights for every human being" thats a lie because you factually do not support the rights of pregnant women :shrug:
 
AGENT J said:
I always play nice, the facts of your own views and words. It proves when you claim "you always support individual rights for every human being" thats a lie because you factually do not support the rights of pregnant women :shrug:
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LMAO. Straw man. Show me anywhere I didn't support the rights of pregnant women. Go ahead, quote me. I'm waiting.
 
Waddy said:
So you would accept existing law if abortion were illegal?
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Being a male it wouldn't matter if I accepted it or not, but I wouldn't accept prosecuting a woman who broke the law.

IMO, to procreate or not procreate, is just as unalienable a Right as Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. After all, women are natures creator of human life, so I'll leave the decision to procreate or not solely to them individually.
 
Waddy said:
1.)LMAO. Straw man.
2.) Show me anywhere I didn't support the rights of pregnant women. Go ahead, quote me. I'm waiting.
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1.) well you just proved you dont know what a strawman is LMAO why do you post so many lies? by all means point out my factual strawman you cant! lol

2.) sure thats easy, you are prolife correct?
 
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