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Why is abortion acceptable?

Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Lursa said:
You didnt answer my question, again? Why?

It's because you cant keep supporting your position on anything but emotion, that's why.

Here, try again, it's based completely on your claim, in bold.

Ah, by that "logic" the govt should be pairing up couples and forcing them to marry, right? Because that 'stability' would conceivably (pun intended) create more stable financial family units. After all...men and women were by nature born to mate and care for young. Right?
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I don't need to answer that question because it is ridiculous.
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Lursa said:
Which ones, please be specific?
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Abortion up to the last second and afterwards.
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Bucky said:
I don't need to answer that question because it is ridiculous.
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Of course it is, that's the point I was making! Thank you! It's just as ridiculous as your statement about women not being able to have abortions because "women were by nature born to give birth."

Well done!
 
Re: Because abortion law hadn't kept up with medical advances

Lursa said:
Then you lied here then, correct?
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People break laws all the time and don't get caught. Be sneaky if you must.
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

WCH said:
Abortion up to the last second and afterwards.
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No women do that unless it is by medical necessity. NONE. ZERO.

If it does occur, please provide the data.
 
Re: Because abortion law hadn't kept up with medical advances

WCH said:
People break laws all the time and don't get caught. Be sneaky if you must.
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You are still lying. What happens if they get caught? What happens if a pregnant woman is found to be planning one?
 
Re: Because abortion law hadn't kept up with medical advances

Lursa said:
You are still lying. What happens if they get caught? What happens if a pregnant woman is found to be planning one?
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They wouldn't be pregnant any longer but, depending on the law, fine and/or jail time.
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Lursa said:
No women do that unless it is by medical necessity. NONE. ZERO.

If it does occur, please provide the data.
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BS.. stop being an apologist. I've heard dozens of doctors say there is no excuse for a third trimester abortion.
 
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WCH said:
They wouldn't be pregnant any longer but, depending on the law, fine and/or jail time.
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If they caught a pregnant woman? How would they stop her from getting an abortion?

Andif she has one, how would they know it wasnt a miscarriage?
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

WCH said:
BS.. stop being an apologist. I've heard dozens of doctors say there is no excuse for a third trimester abortion.
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Quick...tell me what I'm apologizing for? Providing the truth that you know you cannot prove wrong? :mrgreen:

And btw I call total BS on your anecdote. It's another lie. Lying is a sin, you know that right?
 
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I think its very hard to say abortion is acceptable so instead we use the "womans' right to chose". Sounds nicer and tries to circumvent the horror of baby killing. I'm not a believer in euthanasia either, its taking a life.
 
Stopandthink said:
You’ve notice by now you’re not going to get an honest answer to your question from the pro abortion crowd because you’ve identified that the root problem with legal personhood is that it is lacks scientific common sense.


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So you are questioning the holy Constitution? The Ninth Amendment is quite clear.
 
Elvira said:
OR...women could act more responsibly and not spread their legs for any Tom, Dick, or Harry that comes along...;)
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So Tom Dick or Harry can get it whenever they want, but god forbid a woman should be allowed the same?
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Integrityrespec said:
I think its very hard to say abortion is acceptable so instead we use the "womans' right to chose". Sounds nicer and tries to circumvent the horror of baby killing. I'm not a believer in euthanasia either, its taking a life.
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*sigh* No babies are killed in an abortion.

ANd why should women's rights to bodily sovereignty, life, liberty, self-determination, and our Constitutional rights be dismissed in favor of saving the unborn? Why is the unborn more important to you?
 
Abortion 101

Bucky said:
Why do you have such a feminist agenda? I have a humanist agenda. We need to find a way for the mother and baby to be able to co-exist and have equal rights.

There is no war in the womb.
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The controlling law in the US on abortion is Roe v. Wade. As it's the law, you'd do better - when discussing the law - to follow their use of language.

& so it's not mother and baby while the woman is pregnant. It's woman & fetus until the fetus is delivered. & just by inspection, you can see that the two are not going to have equal rights. The fetus is entirely dependent upon the woman. The moment the respective rights of the parties move beyond the theoretical stage, any fetal rights become impossible to enforce, without assaulting the woman.

Roe v. Wade sensibly allows free election of abortion by the woman in the first trimester, which the states can increasingly regulate into the second & third trimesters.
 
Scrabaholic said:
The planet would thank us for that.

I guess you've never heard of immigration.
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In America, many conservatives are terrified of immigration, including legally doing so.
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Elvira said:
Abortion is the easy way out in shirking one's personal responsibility for one's actions...
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Abortion can be a very responsible decision:

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less waiting will find a home.​


Can you justify encouraging women to have babies they dont want/cant afford to give them for adoption when it means other children already waiting will go without a home? If so, how? How do you justify just adding more kids to a vast pool of kids already waiting and hoping when there clearly are not enough homes for the ones here now?
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Lursa said:
Abortion can be a very responsible decision:

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less waiting will find a home.​


Can you justify encouraging women to have babies they dont want/cant afford to give them for adoption when it means other children already waiting will go without a home? If so, how? How do you justify just adding more kids to a vast pool of kids already waiting and hoping when there clearly are not enough homes for the ones here now?
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lol...there is nothing responsible or moral about taking a human life, either...
 
Elvira said:
It's nice to see someone finally admit they are children...:)
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Yes, when they are born they are children- Have you ever heard of anyone denying it?
 
Sweden said:
Yes, when they are born they are children- Have you ever heard of anyone denying it?
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As they are before birth...they're not dogs or cats...humans beget humans...
 
Re: There are lots of resources available, & that's a good thing

southwest88 said:
The point stands - age 18 is much too late to start formal education.
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With a public K-12 education only gets people to accept a very basic education. Everyone in America gets a basic k-9 education and when you turn 16 your can quite school. Sure, you can get a GED and go to a community college and get your degree of a two year schooling at the level of a community level. Sure you can transfer, but that is very uncommon then the general practice.
 
Re: We don't know enough to choose wisely; it may be beyond us politically/socially, even if we do k

Lursa said:
*sigh* No babies are killed in an abortion.

ANd why should women's rights to bodily sovereignty, life, liberty, self-determination, and our Constitutional rights be dismissed in favor of saving the unborn? Why is the unborn more important to you?
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What would that be that is being killed if its not a baby.
 
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