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Why is abortion acceptable?

Elvira said:
I already have...how many did you raise out of wedlock? Lemme guess...zero...
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Nope...we were 100% responsible 100% of the times we had sex.

So...care to actually address the post and my examples...or just pretend that the rest of us should have to respect you more for a decision that YOU chose that was best for YOUR life? Which is no more than we ask for any pregnant woman.
 
Elvira said:
What a fake you are...pathetic...
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I see another attempt at a personal attack and zero discussion.

You have failed to defend your position...own it instead of attacking me.
 
Lursa said:
I see another attempt at a personal attack and zero discussion.

You have failed to defend your position...own it instead of attacking me.
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Because I see you for what you are...
 
Elvira said:
Pay attention...I already told you...
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OK, I see you have capitulated and have nothing left but cryptic denial and personal attacks.

My posts are here for anyone to read...let me know if you can support your position in the future.
 
Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

marke said:
The barbarian mindset: Unborn human babies are worthless blobs of living cell masses no better than dead animal remains.
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no better then live animals and worth as much as the mother deems fit


why is that barbaric?
 
Lursa said:
He was no such thing, he was as much a nutter as any pro-life extremist.

None of the current pro-choice posters here use his information at all.
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Exactly. He was quite extreme in many of his arguments like the cuticle example he gave in the post Bucky quoted.
 
Bucky said:
A mother once she is pregnant, her decision-making can become extremely clouded.
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Misogynistic or sexist comments have no place in the debate.

A woman is not a mother unless she has given birth.
 
Lursa said:
Isnt it morally hypocritical to take away the bodily sovereignty & self-determination of women to give the exact same things to the unborn? How is the unborn 'more' deserving?

How is it 'more' moral to force women to remain pregnant against their will?
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They got pregnant against their will?
 
Bucky said:
I cannot speak of personal experience. I can speak from personal experience as a man. During puberty and adolescents, hormones are firing. It can be tough for young men 17, 18-year-olds to do things they later regret. Sexual attraction can turn into sexual assault and battery very easily. Sometimes the man does not even know what he is doing.
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Are you saying what I think you are saying?

Yes, he knows what he is doing. If it was a legal defense all boys in that age group would be locked up until their hormones simmered down.
 
year2late said:
Are you saying what I think you are saying?

Yes, he knows what he is doing. If it was a legal defense all boys in that age group would be locked up until their hormones simmered down.
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He's not alone. Extremist Muslims put all the blame on the women...that's why they force their women to cover up...so that men dont even have to develop any self control at all. They dont have to be tempted, and if they are, it's all the woman's fault. :roll:
 
Lursa said:
He's not alone. Extremist Muslims put all the blame on the women...that's why they force their women to cover up...so that men dont even have to develop any self control at all. They dont have to be tempted, and if they are, it's all the woman's fault. :roll:
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Well men and women in the US are required to be responsible for their own self control.
 
Bucky said:
I cannot speak of personal experience. I can speak from personal experience as a man. During puberty and adolescents, hormones are firing. It can be tough for young men 17, 18-year-olds to do things they later regret. Sexual attraction can turn into sexual assault and battery very easily. Sometimes the man does not even know what he is doing.
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WHAT?!?!?!

no not for NORMAL young men lol
 
year2late said:
Can you imagine....my teen hormones made me sexually assault and batter her”
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nobody honest with an understanding of how those things work can imagine that.....

if that was a legit excuse it could be a legit excuse for just about anything
 
AGENT J said:
nobody honest with an understanding of how those things work can imagine that.....

if that was a legit excuse it could be a legit excuse for just about anything
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This started because because Bucky was trying to show that hormones in pregnancy made the woman incapable of making serious decisions
 
year2late said:
This started because because Bucky was trying to show that hormones in pregnancy made the woman incapable of making serious decisions
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He still hasn't answered my question about men thinking with their dicks.
 
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