Do you support the proposed abortion legislation in NY?

Neomalthusian said:

I’m no encyclopedia on abortions, but I had assumed third trimester abortions lacking medical necessity were unlawful in numerous states.

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They are in some but not all.

Do you think that the states with no such limits have more elective abortions after 24 weeks than states that do?

If you are not someone that has investigated in the past (as it sounds), then the answer is no. As a matter of fact...no such elective abortions occur in any state. The data has been posted in the myriad threads on this topic several times but it's hard to keep track of :sun

Lursa said:

What is your field?

And do you believe that there are women who are starting to deliver a full term, healthy baby and then demanding it be aborted at that point? If so, I'd like to see data on that.

Do you believe that any women choose to electively abort a healthy viable baby? If so, please provide the data.

It doesnt happen. Why on earth would it? Any woman that close to delivery, a month or 2 away...she's already been thru most of the sacrifices of pregnancy. To abort that late is more dangerous and more painful than giving birth...depending on 'your field' you may know this.

Why wouldnt she just deliver a healthy baby and make $20,000 for a private adoption?

The existing laws allow parents to decide on comfort/palliative care for infants depending on their diagnoses at birth. Do you believe that this is being abused and parents/mothers are just deciding to terminate their newborns for unfounded reasons?

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I'm a psychologist and I specialize in rehabilitation. I mostly see reoccurring patients for chemical abuse, though I do see patients for traumatic injury and psychological trauma as well. So yes, I do see women who have either had an abortion that they regret and at the very worst, it's a woman who's illegally aborted her child and has ended up needing medical treatment, or therapy to cope.

I believe that when a woman is at both, her weakest and strongest moments. That there is enough capacity for anything to go wrong. I've had patients in the past who've done as such. But such an event happening is rare and the only reason they followed through was because of how unsure felt about raising the child, or even being able to properly care for it. It most cases, I find it's the doctor who makes such challenges even worse, with their own form of input. Despite a majority of such doctors, don't even have children themselves in most cases, or have adopted in lieu having one themselves.

I honestly wouldn't have much information to give, given how rare most of this is at all. Though from experience I do believe that a portion of the data isn't being reported honestly. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen any sort of person in the medical field "cook' their books, so to speak.

As for the existing law, I will not lie. It may just have the exact use that was originally intended. Though I would be a fool to believe that this law, just like many others. Does not contain the possibility of abuse that many others do.

II don't live in New York, so unless it's something that will cost me I don't care one way or the other. 10th amendment prevails.

eohrnberger said:

I'm not being dishonest. Direct quote from the citation: "New York Senate cheers today for legalization of killing a baby".

Celebrated the ability to kill the unborn by turning pink lights on buildings, I hear.



What does 'equality for women' have to do with abortion?

I still stand on my preference for prevention rather than abortion.

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Yet there is no 'equality' for the father to decide if the child should live or die.

Obscurity said:

Let's do this.

Federally relegate abortion back to the states authority. Allow red states to restrict abortion as much as they would like. Any state that allows for abortion should immediately pass laws refusing access to abortion for any woman from a state which outlaws abortion. Amend the social safety net to disallow any federal dollars taken from blue states to go to red states that outlaw or restrict abortion.

Let's see how long those states last when starved of the blue state dollars they so willingly slurp up now. Once those mouths need to be fed, I'd be willing to bet, those states would quickly see mass protests and mass unrest.

If we can't get the antichoicers out, let's starve them out.

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Imagine being part of a side that advocates for gay marriage and abortions, but your ego still lets you suggest other groups are in danger of going extinct.

Special place in irony heaven for that.

Crusader13 said:

Imagine being part of a side that advocates for gay marriage and abortions, but your ego still lets you suggest other groups are in danger of going extinct.

Special place in irony heaven for that.

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Yet, there are about 3 times more births than abortions.....

Scrabaholic said:

Yet, there are about 3 times more births than abortions.....

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Of course there are. My point is that fewer and fewer of those births will be from our modern day progressives. Traditionally religious people around the world tend to have lots of children. Outnumbering a group that pushes for homosexuality and abortions should be easy. That's why the left targets children's media so aggressively nowadays. Gotta find tomorrow's soy boys since they're clearly not gonna be having much of their own.

Crusader13 said:

Of course there are. My point is that fewer and fewer of those births will be from our modern day progressives. Traditionally religious people around the world tend to have lots of children. Outnumbering a group that pushes for homosexuality and abortions should be easy. That's why the left targets children's media so aggressively nowadays. Gotta find tomorrow's soy boys since they're clearly not gonna be having much of their own.

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You are making no sense whatsoever.