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Does a woman have a right...

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AlphaOmega said:
Well thats like a guy hoarking down a pepper steak and then claiming he is a vegan. Sorry, according to their beliefs killing a defensless unborn would automatically make them not a christian.ag
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I don't really care. You don't get to say they aren't christian. I am sure plenty of them feel remorse, something you lot insist they don't.

You don't get to say "well, they aren't real christians!" That's not an argument. It's an opinion, a ****ty one. You should flush it before it stinks the whole lot outta heaven.
 
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Obscurity said:
I don't really care. You don't get to say they aren't christian. I am sure plenty of them feel remorse, something you lot insist they don't.

You don't get to say "well, they aren't real christians!" That's not an argument. It's an opinion, a ****ty one. You should flush it before it stinks the whole lot outta heaven.
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Sure I do. The christian faith is clear on this. Its not open to your opinion. Christians dont go around killing the unborn. If you do, by factual default you are not a christian, you are just someone that killed a defenseless human being.
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Sure I do. The christian faith is clear on this. Its not open to your opinion. Christians dont go around killing the unborn. If you do, by factual default you are not a christian, you are just someone that killed a defenseless human being.
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It is opinion. The christian faith says you are forgiven for any sin if you ask forgiveness with remorse.

And yes, they do. 54% of people who obtained an abortion are christians by self admission.

You, sir, are no moral authority. Your god is a slavering, disgusting, and cynical tyrant who ordered living babies "dashed" on rocks.

So spare me your strutting and ****ting, I will have none of it, pidgeon.
 
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Obscurity said:
It is opinion. The christian faith says you are forgiven for any sin if you ask forgiveness with remorse.

And yes, they do. 54% of people who obtained an abortion are christians by self admission.

You, sir, are no moral authority. Your god is a slavering, disgusting, and cynical tyrant who ordered living babies "dashed" on rocks.

So spare me your strutting and ****ting, I will have none of it, pidgeon.
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Uhh..I don't have a god. Can you tell me which god you are speaking of?
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Uhh..I don't have a god. Can you tell me which god you are speaking of?
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The christian one, that's who.

I repeat; 54% of abortions are obtained by self admitted chrisitans.

You do not get to say they aren't christians, just like you don't get to say McCain wasn't a republican.

I so tire of you checklist ideologues.
 
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Obscurity said:
The christian one, that's who.

I repeat; 54% of abortions are obtained by self admitted chrisitans.

You do not get to say they aren't christians, just like you don't get to say McCain wasn't a republican.

I so tire of you checklist ideologues.
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Oh sorry, we arent discussing this anymore. Once you name call and state I have a god when I have said no such thing means you lied. We are done. This is our last communication.
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Oh sorry, we arent discussing this anymore. Once you name call and state I have a god when I have said no such thing means you lied. We are done. This is our last communication.
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Bye, Felicia.
 
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Obscurity said:
You want to go down this road?

2 Kings 15:16
Psalms 137:8-9
Exodus 12:29
Isaiah 13:15-18
Jeremiah 19:7-9
Let's not forget the one you lot forget the most:

Romans 13: 1-7 - “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”


Suspect how you guys constantly ignore this.

The biblical god has zero respect for life. None.

Does he tell them to abort fetuses? No. But he clearly doesn't value their lives, else he wouldn't have his chosen ripping open women and dashing infants against the rocks.

What a hate filled, wicked, evil book. It has zero moral authority here, or anywhere. It has been exposed for the brutal dumpster fire it is.
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I don't agree with what members of other denominations come up with sometimes. But they are welcome to their own interpretations. I will face God with mine and they will face God with theirs.

Hitler ordered the murder of all Jews. To hide a Jew in Germany during WW2 was an offense punishable by death. Those laws were not valid. To hell with the ungodly and their ungodly laws. God's laws are preeminent over man's laws.
 
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marke said:
I don't agree with what members of other denominations come up with sometimes. But they are welcome to their own interpretations. I will face God with mine and they will face God with theirs.

Hitler ordered the murder of all Jews. To hide a Jew in Germany during WW2 was an offense punishable by death. Those laws were not valid. To hell with the ungodly and their ungodly laws. God's laws are preeminent over man's laws.
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Nice manifesto. Seems I touched a nerve. Tell me, what's it like to worship a baby killing, blood thirsty, and angry god who demands people dash the heads of infants on rocks?
 
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Obscurity said:
Nice manifesto. Seems I touched a nerve. Tell me, what's it like to worship a baby killing, blood thirsty, and angry god who demands people dash the heads of infants on rocks?
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What's it like knowing you are going out into eternity without having made peace with God?
 
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marke said:
What's it like knowing you are going out into eternity without having made peace with God?
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If he actually exists, when I meet him, I will tell him these few lines:

"You didn't show me enough to prove your existence, and your "words" in your book painted you out to be one of the most vengeful, angry assholes of all time."
 
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Obscurity said:
If he actually exists, when I meet him, I will tell him these few lines:

"You didn't show me enough to prove your existence, and your "words" in your book painted you out to be one of the most vengeful, angry assholes of all time."
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You can join Satan and his defiant hosts to interrogate God at the judgment if you still have doubts about his goodness.

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marke said:
Adam became a living soul after he was formed by God as an adult. God teaches that humans have souls in the womb. See Psalm 139 and Luke 1:41.
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God said he knew prophets before they were born.

For thousands of years the Bible was interepeted that the soul came with the breath of life.

The following Huff article explained that it was Falwell who changed the pro choice position of the Evanglists. He said they had been misreading the Bible for thousands of years and thus changed the accepted intereptation of the Bible that life/ensoulment started with live birth and the breath of life and “ claimed” for political reasons that it began with conception.
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Why does it matter that what evangelical leaders say is “the biblical view on abortion” was not a widespread interpretation until about 30 years ago?

For one thing, it’s harder to argue the Bible clearly teaches something when the overwhelming majority of its past interpreters didn’t read the Bible that way.

For another, it illustrates that evangelical leaders are happy to defend creative reinterpretations of the Bible when it fits with a socially conservative worldview — even while objecting to new interpretations of the Bible on, say, homosexuality, precisely because they are new. And for another, by looking at the history of how today’s “biblical view on abortion” arose, one can begin to see the worldview that made it possible.

In the process, it becomes apparent it is that unacknowledged worldview, and not the Bible, that evangelical opponents of abortion are actually defending.
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https://www.debatepolitics.com/abor...bortion-legislation-ny-29.html#post1069613724

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TheRepublican said:
It’s funny how the title asks Does a woman have a right? Well define the right because I think she has every right to have a abortion but, whenever we get these pro-lifers they don’t want people to have a voice for themselves or whatever. I disagree with that you can decide to get a abortion at full term because you just feel like you don’t want it is irresponsible and you should be ashamed of yourself. Now, let’s say that you are in the embryo stage then people should mind their own business and, leave you alone. I’m not against abortion but yet, we have the pill so what’s the difference ?
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Women do not gestate to full term and then abort just because they feel they don't want it. Does not happen.
 
So can someone please tell me what’s the difference between the morning after pill and abortion. Because I would have to agree after that 4 weeks to the 8 weeks is pushing it. Andrew Cuomo more like I cannot say just private message me if you want to know. I try to stay away from this one because I truly believe that this should be a woman decision but yet, I have a thought that women would probably use it as a birth control
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Sure I do. The christian faith is clear on this. Its not open to your opinion. Christians dont go around killing the unborn. If you do, by factual default you are not a christian, you are just someone that killed a defenseless human being.
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You keep saying that, yet you can't come up with one Bible verse forbidding a woman from terminating her pregnancy. You have lost that 'point'.
 
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marke said:
What's it like knowing you are going out into eternity without having made peace with God?
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"I don't agree with what members of other denominations come up with sometimes. But they are welcome to their own interpretations. I will face God with mine and they will face God with theirs."

Pot, kettle, achromatic?



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Scrabaholic said:
What does that have to do w/ my post?

Of course it's killing.
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Scrabaholic said:
Are you talking about euthanasia or medically assisted dying?
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Were you asking if I was talking about A as opposed to B, or were you asking if I was talking "this" also known as "that"?


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TheRepublican said:
So can someone please tell me what’s the difference between the morning after pill and abortion. Because I would have to agree after that 4 weeks to the 8 weeks is pushing it. Andrew Cuomo more like I cannot say just private message me if you want to know. I try to stay away from this one because I truly believe that this should be a woman decision but yet, I have a thought that women would probably use it as a birth control
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An abortion is a procedure that removes an implanted ZEF from the woman's womb. There are several different methods available. You'll have to look them up.

The morning after pill, also commonly know by the Plan B brand name, is a drug that prevents the ZEF from implanting. Sort of a temporary chemical IUD.

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