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Does a woman have a right...

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code1211 said:
Is there a document that serves as a basis for US Law?
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Sure. The US Constitution, the British common law; & all their related documents, cases, precedents, etc.
 
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code1211 said:
The politically devoted, as you so accurately observe, do have religious loyalty to their party or their cause de jour.

The PC Police are a very active and very biased mob of ruthless ideologues. They were hard at work before any of knew they were around. I think I cited George Carlin's routine on the clouding of language.

"Soft language is a phrase coined by American comedian George Carlin to describe euphemistic expressions that "conceal reality" and "take the life out of life."

To clear up any misunderstanding, the work "immigrant" IS now considered to be a slur. Don't use it in reference to anyone that you are not intending to demean.

Expressions That Conceal Reality: George Carlin's "Soft Language"
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Nope, the religious loyalty of the politically devoted is your trope, not mine.

PC Police is somebody's turn of phrase. Limbaugh? I forget, I've seen it off & on for decades now.

Yah, Carlin was an interesting guy - he was mining the same material as George Orwell, but Orwell actually put his life on the line. Carlin worked very hard @ his craft, apparently all the time.
 
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southwest88 said:
Sure. The US Constitution, the British common law; & all their related documents, cases, precedents, etc.
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code1211 said:
That's kind of what I thought.
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From PubMed:

Abortion was frequently practiced in North America during the period from 1600 to 1900. Many tribal societies knew how to induce abortions. They used a variety of methods including the use of black root and cedar root as abortifacient agents. During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony. In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening.
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maquiscat said:
You do realize that all right do not need to be codified or enumerated. That is the purpose of the 9th amendment.

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You do realize I said legally right?

do you think it could be overturned by the Supreme Court?
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Yes we know the legal definition. I want to know what the difference between the born human is as compared to one prior as well as your reason for believing you have the right to take another human beings life.
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We don't have the right to take another human being's life. Nobody is saying we do.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
We don't have the right to take another human being's life. Nobody is saying we do.
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Then what life are you killing during an abortion? I'd post pictured of unborn killed by people who think the way you do but lets face it, no one would allow your ideology to acrually be seen on an internet forum.
 
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minnie616 said:
From PubMed:
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Abortion is not something civilized Christians or Jews practiced, quite likely because of their focus on God and their need to please Him in this life.
 
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marke said:
Abortion is not something civilized Christians or Jews practiced, quite likely because of their focus on God and their need to please Him in this life.
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In the Jewish Religion the life of woman was always valued over the life of the unborn.

Many Christian Religious do not belive the unborn has a soul.
The Bible taught them about the breath of life and that the soul enters into a newborn with the breath life.

God breathed into Adams nose and mouth and Adam became a living soul.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
What???
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It’s funny how the title asks Does a woman have a right? Well define the right because I think she has every right to have a abortion but, whenever we get these pro-lifers they don’t want people to have a voice for themselves or whatever. I disagree with that you can decide to get a abortion at full term because you just feel like you don’t want it is irresponsible and you should be ashamed of yourself. Now, let’s say that you are in the embryo stage then people should mind their own business and, leave you alone. I’m not against abortion but yet, we have the pill so what’s the difference ?
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Then what life are you killing during an abortion? I'd post pictured of unborn killed by people who think the way you do but lets face it, no one would allow your ideology to acrually be seen on an internet forum.
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Nonsense. Even the bible didn't believe a fetus was an actual human being.

The bible very clearly makes distinction between the two.

Moreover, I don't care for your emotional nonsense.
 
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marke said:
Abortion is not something civilized Christians or Jews practiced, quite likely because of their focus on God and their need to please Him in this life.
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54% of abortions in the US are done on christians. They are self proclaimed christians, so don't try the "real christians" nonsense.
 
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minnie616 said:
In the Jewish Religion the life of woman was always valued over the life of the unborn.

Many Christian Religious do not belive the unborn has a soul.
The Bible taught them about the breath of life and that the soul enters into a newborn with the breath life.

God breathed into Adams nose and mouth and Adam became a living soul.
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Not to mention the bible says the punishment for murder is death. However, beating a pregnant woman and causing her to lose the baby is not punishable by death. Thus the bible makes a distinction here that biblical evangelists are ignoring for political convenience.
 
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minnie616 said:
In the Jewish Religion the life of woman was always valued over the life of the unborn.

Many Christian Religious do not belive the unborn has a soul.
The Bible taught them about the breath of life and that the soul enters into a newborn with the breath life.

God breathed into Adams nose and mouth and Adam became a living soul.
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Adam became a living soul after he was formed by God as an adult. God teaches that humans have souls in the womb. See Psalm 139 and Luke 1:41.
 
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Obscurity said:
54% of abortions in the US are done on christians. They are self proclaimed christians, so don't try the "real christians" nonsense.
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No Bible scholar in the world, except for quacks and liars, will claim the Bible teaches women to abort babies.
 
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marke said:
No Bible scholar in the world, except for quacks and liars, will claim the Bible teaches women to abort babies.
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You want to go down this road?

2 Kings 15:16
Psalms 137:8-9
Exodus 12:29
Isaiah 13:15-18
Jeremiah 19:7-9
Let's not forget the one you lot forget the most:

Romans 13: 1-7 - “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”


Suspect how you guys constantly ignore this.

The biblical god has zero respect for life. None.

Does he tell them to abort fetuses? No. But he clearly doesn't value their lives, else he wouldn't have his chosen ripping open women and dashing infants against the rocks.

What a hate filled, wicked, evil book. It has zero moral authority here, or anywhere. It has been exposed for the brutal dumpster fire it is.
 
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Obscurity said:
Nonsense. Even the bible didn't believe a fetus was an actual human being.

The bible very clearly makes distinction between the two.

Moreover, I don't care for your emotional nonsense.
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oohhhj the bible you say? Well....that settles it, the imaginary story agrees with you. What species is the fetus that you need to kill?
 
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AlphaOmega said:
Then what life are you killing during an abortion? I'd post pictured of unborn killed by people who think the way you do but lets face it, no one would allow your ideology to acrually be seen on an internet forum.
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No, don't do that. (See Rule 19 on graphic content.) Anybody who wants to see what the "products of abortion" are is only a Google away from these horrific and heartbreaking images.
 
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Obscurity said:
The people getting them are.
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Well thats like a guy hoarking down a pepper steak and then claiming he is a vegan. Sorry, according to their beliefs killing a defensless unborn would automatically make them not a christian.ag
 
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