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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by MFG View Post
    And what about someone who lives in a comatose state. Is it an individual or not?
    If what makes the difference between an individual and a not-individual is the ability of one’s organism to live indipendently, what about those who need some sort of external forces to live, like someone who lives in a comatose state?
    A person who is comatose is not living inside a person and depending on that person’s life forces to keep it alive.

    If a pregnant woman dies and the body no longer functions before the unborn is viable the unborn will not survive even if quickly removed and given life support and or / the very best medical care.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    A person who is comatose is not living inside a person and depending on that person’s life forces to keep it alive.

    If a pregnant woman dies and the body no longer functions before the unborn is viable the unborn will not survive even if quickly removed and given life support and or / the very best medical care.
    Yes, if the fetus is a certain age...no matter what technology, it will not survive outside the womb.

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist 2020 View Post
    Who supports your mothers right to have a abortion?

    Abortion is legal and its a core right of women to use to decide on the size or shape of their family.

    If I was to become a single mother, I would have a abortion. Why can a man walk away from being a father and the mother is forced to raise the child?
    Do you also support that it's a woman's sole responsibility to pay for any choice she makes related to her body or the results of those choices?

    She picked him. One would think that if a woman chose to spread her legs for someone she'd be a lot more careful about the type person he is.

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Yes, if the fetus is a certain age...no matter what technology, it will not survive outside the womb.
    What age would that be?

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    A person who is comatose is not living inside a person and depending on that person’s life forces to keep it alive.

    If a pregnant woman dies and the body no longer functions before the unborn is viable the unborn will not survive even if quickly removed and given life support and or / the very best medical care.
    A person that is comatose is depending on someone else to do things for him/her that he/she would otherwise do if they weren't in a coma. Many of those things can be the difference between life an death. Does that mean, as a society, we should support "aborting" those in comas?

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by CFI302 View Post
    What age would that be?
    21 weeks is the generally accepted fetal age.

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by CFI302 View Post
    A person that is comatose is depending on someone else to do things for him/her that he/she would otherwise do if they weren't in a coma. Many of those things can be the difference between life an death. Does that mean, as a society, we should support "aborting" those in comas?
    Abortion is the expulsion of fetal material before viabilty. Spontaneous abortion is the medical term for what many laypersons call a miscarriage. Comatose persons are viable and they are not inside a woman’s body nor are they physically dependent on that woman’s bodiliy functions for nourishment, oxygen and excreatment functions to stay alive.
    Last edited by minnie616; 01-19-19 at 11:41 PM.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Abortion is the expulsion of fetal material before viabilty. Spontaneous abortion is the medical term for what many laypersons call a miscarriage. Comatose persons are viable and they are not inside a woman’s body nor are they physically dependent on that woman’s bodiliy functions for nourishment, oxygen and excreatment functions to stay alive.
    You're not expelling it when the process includes what amounts to a vacuum cleaner sucking it out.

    That you equate something that happens without the control of anyone to something that involves a willful act proves you're an idiot.

    A comatose person that relies on others to do things he/she should otherwise do if not in a coma isn't viable. By definition, they aren't existing independently. Viability doesn't refer only to an unborn child, it refers to anything or anyone that relies on others. Look it up.

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    21 weeks is the generally accepted fetal age.
    So some random number, huh?

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    Re: [W:103]Abortion is legal

    Quote Originally Posted by CFI302 View Post
    You're not expelling it when the process includes what amounts to a vacuum cleaner sucking it out.

    That you equate something that happens without the control of anyone to something that involves a willful act proves you're an idiot.

    A comatose person that relies on others to do things he/she should otherwise do if not in a coma isn't viable. By definition, they aren't existing independently. Viability doesn't refer only to an unborn child, it refers to anything or anyone that relies on others. Look it up.
    This is the abortion forum you are posting in.
    You were comparing an unborn with born person on life support.
    Your anology fails since viability of an unborn was described by the court as : the Court sustained a statute defining viability as a stage where the fetus's life ``may be continued outside the womb by the natural or artificial life-supportive systems''.
    Last edited by minnie616; 01-20-19 at 10:17 AM.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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