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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So then our opinions differ on that.

    If the law in the UK says parents decide all medical decisions for minors, including this, I have no objections. For the reasons I stated.
    If you read the reddit post the person writing it claims the decision was made for her by NHS and not by parents


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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    I do not see were a woman has the right to take a child to full term.

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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

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    I do not see were a woman has the right to take a child to full term.
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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    If you read the reddit post the person writing it claims the decision was made for her by NHS and not by parents


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    IMO that blog is mostly BS but we dont know what the medical issues are and if they would be life-threatening to the girl. If they truly are, then their govt may have the power to decide on behalf of the child.

    We have similar laws in the US, but not exactly the same.

    I dont get involved in abortion issues in other countries...I feel the same way about it but cannot protect those women. In the US, we have a Constitution to protect women.
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Meh, who cares, you don't believe it not for any real reason, you only disbelieve it because you don't wish to believe it.

    I think it's important such an issue is discussed because Great Britain is exactly the type of society this type of thing will happen in.
    Their judges can ban local media from reporting on these cases, so you can't go to the press, they can ban people from leaving the country and seizing their passport, and they will not allow any foreign observers to protect the human rights of their citizens. So what about it do you think is wrong, and what circumstance justifies a government official even suggesting a woman get an abortion when she doesn't want one?
    Let me see if I understand this right.

    You have a reddit post, you bring it here, and challenge all of us to justify it? Worse, when it is obvious that even if it is all factual we are still missing pieces of the story.
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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Let me see if I understand this right.

    You have a reddit post, you bring it here, and challenge all of us to justify it? Worse, when it is obvious that even if it is all factual we are still missing pieces of the story.
    I didn’t challenge you to do anything. You’ve decided it’s wrong and if it were confirmed to be true you would immediately pivot to “it’s the right decision”

    If a story like this were written in the US I would say it is probably not true, in the UK? Who knows? They’ve done it before are big on using gag orders to stop the press and fining people for acts that are freedom of speech in this country


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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Let me see if I understand this right.

    You have a reddit post, you bring it here, and challenge all of us to justify it? Worse, when it is obvious that even if it is all factual we are still missing pieces of the story.
    And it's going to revolve around British law. That's not the same as US law.

    It is an OP about the legal aspects of how this case is being handled in the UK.
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    IMO that blog is mostly BS but we dont know what the medical issues are and if they would be life-threatening to the girl. If they truly are, then their govt may have the power to decide on behalf of the child.

    We have similar laws in the US, but not exactly the same.

    I dont get involved in abortion issues in other countries...I feel the same way about it but cannot protect those women. In the US, we have a Constitution to protect women.
    The reality is though, elements of the American left openly want to copy the UK on gun rights, free speech rights, and healthcare rights, which is to say, you get none at all. So if they’re doing something dirty I want it front page so people can see it.


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    Re: What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I can't confirm this story, but knowing the dictatorial police state that is the United Kingdom, it's not implausible.

    This was first posted on /r/catholicism but later edited, however the original post was shared to /r/The_Donald so you can read the OP

    Here's an original link to the Catholicism sub-reddit

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism...GtuEhiACtyf_cw

    Here's a link to the post on The_Donald

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...fQgSd3FCeW6400

    Here's a screenshot of the original post



    If I were POTUS I would publically urge this woman to go to a US Military base in Britain with guaranteed asylum, THIS folks is what asylum is for.
    I call bovine excrement.

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