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What freedom of Choice REALLY means! UK *might* be forcing woman to abortion!

EMNofSeattle

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I can't confirm this story, but knowing the dictatorial police state that is the United Kingdom, it's not implausible.

This was first posted on /r/catholicism but later edited, however the original post was shared to /r/The_Donald so you can read the OP

Here's an original link to the Catholicism sub-reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicis...xY_JZHy6lqzoi1KCC5d0jahbcVI02fQGtuEhiACtyf_cw

Here's a link to the post on The_Donald

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald...Z13in28YEowRnOIxp1TUoJPsf0_gcetfQgSd3FCeW6400

Here's a screenshot of the original post

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If I were POTUS I would publically urge this woman to go to a US Military base in Britain with guaranteed asylum, THIS folks is what asylum is for.
 
Oh you saw a comment on Reddit and there's allegedly a magical "report ban" in place to prevent proving it, sounds legit. Let's all get super upset with this totally believable story.

Also, it's zero surprise you're a subscriber to r/The_Donald. It's a complete circle jerk of radical right virgins that are allergic to facts. Get better news sources, kid.
 
Something is missing from the story, and the posts from this person seems to offer some clues but not all the story.

I also find it unlikely that the case would have all the conditions the poster in that forum is suggesting.
 
Oh you saw a comment on Reddit and there's allegedly a magical "report ban" in place to prevent proving it, sounds legit. Let's all get super upset with this totally believable story.

Reporting bans are a thing in the UK, see Tommy Robinson who was held without charges or bail for weeks for taking pictures of suspects in public from a public place.
 
Something is missing from the story, and the posts from this person seems to offer some clues but not all the story.

I also find it unlikely that the case would have all the conditions the poster in that forum is suggesting.

Again, it's not implausible, we know for a fact the UK silences the press at will and that the UK government takes anti-life decisions, also if this woman is a Catholic (which is likely given it's the Catholic subreddit) there's the additional factor that Catholics have been subject to extreme discrimination up to and including cold blooded murder by the British Government.
 
Again, it's not implausible, we know for a fact the UK silences the press at will and that the UK government takes anti-life decisions, also if this woman is a Catholic (which is likely given it's the Catholic subreddit) there's the additional factor that Catholics have been subject to extreme discrimination up to and including cold blooded murder by the British Government.

Okay, linking a 1972 event to this reddit post does not help your case.
 
Okay, linking a 1972 event to this reddit post does not help your case.

Meh, who cares, you don't believe it not for any real reason, you only disbelieve it because you don't wish to believe it.

I think it's important such an issue is discussed because Great Britain is exactly the type of society this type of thing will happen in.
Their judges can ban local media from reporting on these cases, so you can't go to the press, they can ban people from leaving the country and seizing their passport, and they will not allow any foreign observers to protect the human rights of their citizens. So what about it do you think is wrong, and what circumstance justifies a government official even suggesting a woman get an abortion when she doesn't want one?
 
I can't confirm this story, but knowing the dictatorial police state that is the United Kingdom, it's not implausible.

This was first posted on /r/catholicism but later edited, however the original post was shared to /r/The_Donald so you can read the OP

Here's an original link to the Catholicism sub-reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicis...xY_JZHy6lqzoi1KCC5d0jahbcVI02fQGtuEhiACtyf_cw

Here's a link to the post on The_Donald

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald...Z13in28YEowRnOIxp1TUoJPsf0_gcetfQgSd3FCeW6400

Here's a screenshot of the original post

zmvjtd46ajv11.png


If I were POTUS I would publically urge this woman to go to a US Military base in Britain with guaranteed asylum, THIS folks is what asylum is for.

Seeing as the UK isn't a 'dictatorial police state', why would anyone take your post seriously?
 
Seeing as the UK isn't a 'dictatorial police state', why would anyone take your post seriously?

That's a matter of opinion. clearly a leftist sees the level of control the UK exercises over their population, cameras on all streets, arrests without charges, press reporting restrictions, lack of freedom of healthcare and shrugs their shoulders because to them that's the society they want.

To those of us of a more libertarian mindset this is beyond horrifying.

In fact just google "UK police state" and all kinds of things come up of people making the case, if you believe this is wrong then make an argument, pathetic dismissals are not an argument.
 
That's a matter of opinion. clearly a leftist sees the level of control the UK exercises over their population, cameras on all streets, arrests without charges, press reporting restrictions, lack of freedom of healthcare and shrugs their shoulders because to them that's the society they want.

To those of us of a more libertarian mindset this is beyond horrifying.

No, it's not. It's objective reality. Words have meanings, no matter how much you might wish they didn't.
 
No, it's not. It's objective reality. Words have meanings, no matter how much you might wish they didn't.

making marks on a computer screen looking like "objective reality" is not an argument. You've made none.
 
I've found it very telling too that none of the people who've responded have actually said they would be opposed to this if it were true.
 
making marks on a computer screen looking like "objective reality" is not an argument. You've made none.

I haven't made any argument. I've simply made the observation that your description of the UK is absurd and not based in reality.

Words. Gotta love 'em if they're used right!
 
Seeing as the UK isn't a 'dictatorial police state', why would anyone take your post seriously?

I'm not sure the woman asking for help is even an adult, what is the age of majority in the UK?
 
I'm not sure the woman asking for help is even an adult, what is the age of majority in the UK?

What difference would it make? pro-abortionists claim you should be able to get an abortion as a child with no parental involvement at all, that's the way it is here in WA

So why not the other way around?

Apparently family courts in the UK have compelled abortions in the past

Family Court judge orders medical rape : The Life Institute

For contrast, in the US

https://kysdc.com/2923484/pregnant-...force-abortion-wins-right-to-keep-baby-video/
 
What difference would it make? pro-abortionists claim you should be able to get an abortion as a child with no parental involvement at all, that's the way it is here in WA

So why not the other way around?

Apparently family courts in the UK have compelled abortions in the past

Family Court judge orders medical rape : The Life Institute

For contrast, in the US

https://kysdc.com/2923484/pregnant-...force-abortion-wins-right-to-keep-baby-video/

If she is a minor, then the UK may have laws that give the parents that decision.

What's so odd about that? In general, minors do not have the legal power to decide on their own health care.

The laws in the US regarding pregnancy and abortion are different but I disagree with them...there is danger of death or permanent health damage in both cases and I believe that the parents should be notified. I may be in the minority but it is still my opinion.
 
If she is a minor, then the UK may have laws that give the parents that decision.

What's so odd about that? In general, minors do not have the legal power to decide on their own health care.

Thes law in the US regarding pregnancy and abortion are different but I disagree with them...there is danger of death or permanent health damage in both cases and I believe that the parents should be notified. I may be in the minority but it is still my opinion.

I don't think that should be a compelled decision even for a minor.
 
Again, it's not implausible, we know for a fact the UK silences the press at will and that the UK government takes anti-life decisions, also if this woman is a Catholic (which is likely given it's the Catholic subreddit) there's the additional factor that Catholics have been subject to extreme discrimination up to and including cold blooded murder by the British Government.

:lol: This coming from the same guy who said this... today.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...ed-him-justice-department.html#post1069233041
 
I can't confirm this story, but knowing the dictatorial police state that is the United Kingdom, it's not implausible.

I can tell you with about 99% certainty that this story is nonsensical garbage with no basis in reality. Even if it was the legal bar that would be necessary to show that this woman was mentally incapacitated to the point where she couldn't be allowed to make such a choice would be incredibly high. If it was met, you can have confidence that this woman truly is mentally incapacitated and incapable of understanding what's going on.
 
I don't think that should be a compelled decision even for a minor.

So then our opinions differ on that.

If the law in the UK says parents decide all medical decisions for minors, including this, I have no objections. For the reasons I stated.
 
So then our opinions differ on that.

If the law in the UK says parents decide all medical decisions for minors, including this, I have no objections. For the reasons I stated.

If you read the reddit post the person writing it claims the decision was made for her by NHS and not by parents


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I do not see were a woman has the right to take a child to full term.
 
If you read the reddit post the person writing it claims the decision was made for her by NHS and not by parents


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IMO that blog is mostly BS but we dont know what the medical issues are and if they would be life-threatening to the girl. If they truly are, then their govt may have the power to decide on behalf of the child.

We have similar laws in the US, but not exactly the same.

I dont get involved in abortion issues in other countries...I feel the same way about it but cannot protect those women. In the US, we have a Constitution to protect women.
 
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