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Abortion and Women's Rights

CFI302 said:
Are you saying I'm take orders from him? You'd be wrong. I don't work for you, either.

Those that make claims then use the excuse of "you go first and then I'll provide something" have nothing but talk.
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Actually it is YOU who is doing nothing but talking. If you have no personal testimony to present for what you've done for the unborn besides bang in a message forum, just say so. Then I will present my personal testimony as promised.....your call
 
Logician Man said:
Actually it is YOU who is doing nothing but talking. If you have no personal testimony to present for what you've done for the unborn besides bang in a message forum, just say say so. Then I will present my personal testimony as promised.....your call
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Your promises mean nothing if your argument is "you go first". I don't trust you because you've showing that you can't be trusted.
 
CFI302 said:
Your promises mean nothing if your argument is "you go first". I don't trust you because you've showing that you can't be trusted.
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How have I shown that I can't be trusted ?...be very specific...p.s. It isn't an 'argument'. It's a fair offer that YOU have refused to accept....not me...Correct ?
 
CFI302 said:
Are you saying I'm take orders from him? You'd be wrong. I don't work for you, either.

Those that make claims then use the excuse of "you go first and then I'll provide something" have nothing but talk.
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You are wrong. He has provided his personal testimony a few/ several times in the past few months. We waiting to hear what you have personally done.
 
minnie616 said:
You are wrong. He has provided his personal testimony a few/ several times in the past few months. We waiting to hear what you have personally done.
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Not since I joined. The only thing I get from him is "you go first".

Let me guess, you're claiming you've done something but want me to go first?
 
CFI302 said:
You claim something then refuse to back it up. No one trust a liar like you.
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Incorrect. Feel free to point out the post# in which I refused to present my personal testimony...hint: ( that post doesn't exist )....:2razz:
 
Bodhisattva said:
I totally agree except if a woman is having a man's baby...
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So, a man gets to have sex with a woman, he has an orgasm, an unplanned pregnancy results, and you think that gives the man rights?

Naw ... that ain't how it works. It's her body, not his. The man can walk away from the situation, but the woman can't. It should be solely her decision.

When you can get pregnant, your opinion on abortion will matter.
 
Logician Man said:
Incorrect. Feel free to point out the post# in which I refused to present my personal testimony...hint: ( that post doesn't exist )....:2razz:
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You put conditions on it thinking someone else takes orders from you. You can't be trusted, liar.
 
CFI302 said:
You put conditions on it thinking someone else takes orders from you. You can't be trusted, liar.
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The conditions are typical debating protocol. Is this your first rodeo ?
 
CFI302 said:
Do you believe that listening to someone that supports abortion spouting things in favor of it is unbaised?

It's never acceptable to kill something because you don't like it. That's well over 90% of abortions.
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You claim that 90% of abortions happen because the pregnant woman doesn't like her fetus? Can you cite a reference to prove that?
 
CFI302 said:
Not since I joined. The only thing I get from him is "you go first".

Let me guess, you're claiming you've done something but want me to go first?
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You have nothing to lose. I would love to hear your personal testimony.

I have personally testified how my kidneys were damaged from my first pregnancy and how I was so anemic by the time I neared delivery that my doctor had the delivery room all set up for a blood transfusion since he was very worried I might bleed to death during delivery. When they wheeled me into the delivery room I did not know if I would live to see my baby or even know if I had a boy
Or girl. My husband and I wanted a child and we chose to continue the pregnacy in spite of the risks.

Now what is your personal testimony ?
 
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Idiometer said:
So, a man gets to have sex with a woman, he has an orgasm, an unplanned pregnancy results, and you think that gives the man rights?

Naw ... that ain't how it works. It's her body, not his. The man can walk away from the situation, but the woman can't. It should be solely her decision.

When you can get pregnant, your opinion on abortion will matter.
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So, a woman gets pregnant and you think it gives her a right to his money without any say?

Why do those of us that didn't have sex with her and didn't impregnate her get the bill for supporting the results of the choice SHE made to keep the child if she doesn't have an abortion?

When, in those situations, women stop demanding the government force those of us she told to butt out of her body, I'll stop saying something about her body. When she say "my body, my choice", she exempts me from any responsibility for what happens. Why does it become a responsibility because she can't afford her choice?
 
minnie616 said:
You have nothing to lose. I would love to hear your personal testimony.

I have personally testified how my kidneys were damaged from my first pregnancy and how I was so anemic by the time I neared delivery that my doctor had the delivery room all set up for a blood transfusion since he was very worried I might bleed to death during delivery. When they wheeled me into the delivery room I did not know if I would live to my baby or even know if I had a boy
Or girl. My husband and I wanted a child and we chose to continue the pregnacy in spite of the risks.

Now what is your personal testimony ?
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That's not a personal testimony. That's called whining for sympathy. Since you aren't my concern, I don't give two ****s what happened to you. That's also not doing anything for the unborn. It's you worried more about yourself than your unborn child. All you posted was "me, me, me". And your husband.
 
CFI302 said:
Your promises mean nothing if your argument is "you go first". I don't trust you because you've showing that you can't be trusted.
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Enough already! We get it! You're an ultra right wing holier-than-thou blowhard who enjoys judging others on this issue but has never stepped up and helped anyone through it.

Come back when you can get pregnant, then your opinion will matter.
 
CFI302 said:
That's not a personal testimony. That's called whining for sympathy. Since you aren't my concern, I don't give two ****s what happened to you. That's also not doing anything for the unborn. It's you worried more about yourself than your unborn child. All you posted was "me, me, me". And your husband.
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////// I don't give two ****s what happened to you. ///// Tell us something we haven't already figured out.
 
Idiometer said:
Enough already! We get it! You're an ultra right wing holier-than-thou blowhard who enjoys judging others on this issue but has never stepped up and helped anyone through it.

Come back when you can get pregnant, then your opinion will matter.
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Unless I'm the one that got the woman pregnant, I have no responsibility whatsoever to do a damn thing for her or her child. For the two that I did, don't make the mistake of believing stepping up wasn't done. Nothing holier than thou about it. What it is is being responsible when I supposed to be and expecting others to do the same.

Stop making demands about people not saying what you don't want to hear unless you can enforce it.
 
CFI302 said:
So, a woman gets pregnant and you think it gives her a right to his money without any say?

Why do those of us that didn't have sex with her and didn't impregnate her get the bill for supporting the results of the choice SHE made to keep the child if she doesn't have an abortion?

When, in those situations, women stop demanding the government force those of us she told to butt out of her body, I'll stop saying something about her body. When she say "my body, my choice", she exempts me from any responsibility for what happens. Why does it become a responsibility because she can't afford her choice?
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I never said anything about money. Is there some law that requires a man to pay for a woman's abortion?

And FYI, our tax dollars do not pay for abortions. Google the Hyde Amendment.
 
Logician Man said:
////// I don't give two ****s what happened to you. ///// Tell us something we haven't already figured out.
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Not my responsibility to do so. She and her husband did the deed that produced the pregnancy. He's the one that got a piece from her. That means he, not anyone else, is responsible to her.
 
CFI302 said:
Unless I'm the one that got the woman pregnant, I have no responsibility whatsoever to do a damn thing for her or her child. For the two that I did, don't make the mistake of believing stepping up wasn't done. Nothing holier than thou about it. What it is is being responsible when I supposed to be and expecting others to do the same.

Stop making demands about people not saying what you don't want to hear unless you can enforce it.
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Me me me me ^^^^^ :lamo
 
CFI302 said:
That's not a personal testimony. That's called whining for sympathy. Since you aren't my concern, I don't give two ****s what happened to you. That's also not doing anything for the unborn. It's you worried more about yourself than your unborn child. All you posted was "me, me, me". And your husband.
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Good heavens! I've read some nasty posts on here, but you win the prize. Do yourself a favor and get some professional help for that gigantic, hate-filled chip on your shoulder.
 
Idiometer said:
I never said anything about money. Is there some law that requires a man to pay for a woman's abortion?

And FYI, our tax dollars do not pay for abortions. Google the Hyde Amendment.
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Perhaps you should Google the Hyde Amendment. You left out a very important part where federal funds can be used in cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother. You are aware that federal funds mean tax dollars aren't you?

If you'd read my post instead of knee jerking about it, I specifically addressed situations where the mother chose NOT to have an abortion but to keep a child she couldn't financially support. Are you saying that in those situations, taxpayers aren't footing the bill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBqjZ0KZCa0

She chose to spread her legs for 3 different babies daddies. None of the three are me, therefore, none of the responsibility to fund the handouts she demands is my responsibility.
 
Idiometer said:
Good heavens! I've read some nasty posts on here, but you win the prize. Do yourself a favor and get some professional help for that gigantic, hate-filled chip on your shoulder.
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:thumbs: :applaud
 
Idiometer said:
Good heavens! I've read some nasty posts on here, but you win the prize. Do yourself a favor and get some professional help for that gigantic, hate-filled chip on your shoulder.
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I don't need help for stating facts. You need some for your whining as it sounds like you have a touch of depression.
 
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