[W:193]Abortion is homicide.

Lursa said:

Ah, I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning!

For the irrational and hypocritical demands to force a woman to bear a child she cant afford and then deny her and the child the $$ they need to survive.

Makes perfect sense...NOT! :lamo

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Who is forcing her to bear a child she can't afford? If you would actually read the post instead of knee jerking, it was clear that having the child involved her CHOICE to not have an abortion.

BTW, no one forced her to have sex and produce that child she now thinks it's OK to kill.

Bodhisattva said:

You are not going to shock me by talking about me spreading my legs... it is no more irresponsible for a woman to kill an embryo than it is for a man to kill a rabbit.



An embryo or zygote is not a child...



For more reasons than that...but yes.



She should get help if it is needed... punishing a hild for the poor decisions of the parent is inhumane.

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Are you saying that an unborn rabbit could be a child when born? If not, invalid comparison.

Why should she get help for a choice she made and one in which she told others to butt out of when making it? Punishing those of us that didn't make the decision is inhumane. I didn't make the choice, she did. That means it's not my place to help pay for it.

CFI302 said:

Who is forcing her to bear a child she can't afford? If you would actually read the post instead of knee jerking, it was clear that having the child involved her CHOICE to not have an abortion.

BTW, no one forced her to have sex and produce that child she now thinks it's OK to kill.

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She has a perfectly legal and much safer option to have an abortion if she chooses. And yet you demonize women that would do so...the word hypocrisy fits.

Lursa said:

She has a perfectly legal and much safer option to have an abortion if she chooses. And yet you demonize women that would do so...the word hypocrisy fits.

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Doesn't change that a woman choosing to have a child wasn't forced to do so as you claimed.

Women that want to kill what their own actions produced because it's an inconvenience to them despite knowing it could happen when they spread their legs should be demonized. I hope that each and every one of them suffers so much mental anguish over the decision it causes physical problems. At that, it still wouldn't come close to their killing of what THEY created.

CFI302 said:

Don't like definitions, huh? Don't like being shown you support murder, huh?

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///// Don't like definitions //// Post the legal statute defining 'murder'. I say you WON'T do it as it would expose your intellectual dishonesty.

CFI302 said:

Doesn't change that a woman choosing to have a child wasn't forced to do so as you claimed.

Women that want to kill what their own actions produced because it's an inconvenience to them despite knowing it could happen when they spread their legs should be demonized. I hope that each and every one of them suffers so much mental anguish over the decision it causes physical problems. At that, it still wouldn't come close to their killing of what THEY created.

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Women who are victims of rape and become impregnated do not 'spread their legs' of their own accord. Once again, you spread your lips and dispense intellectual dishonesty and fallacious claims.

CFI302 said:

Doesn't change that a woman choosing to have a child wasn't forced to do so as you claimed.

Women that want to kill what their own actions produced because it's an inconvenience to them despite knowing it could happen when they spread their legs should be demonized. I hope that each and every one of them suffers so much mental anguish over the decision it causes physical problems. At that, it still wouldn't come close to their killing of what THEY created.

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So are you saying that abortion in order to not have a child you cannot afford is acceptable then?

No of course you're not. But you expect people to not have sex...which is a wonderful thing for couples to enjoy.

And nothing has stopped people having sex since humans evolved...it's the strongest urge in animals. So it's ludicrous to believe that people will stop having sex in modern times when it's so much safer.

CFI302 said:

1.) I understand exactly what it is.
2.) Except in the very, very rare cases where it's done for the health/life of the mother, rape, or incest, the reasons for which it's done center around the one doing it not liking the results of having spread her legs despite knowing what could happen.
3.)The simple fact is that if a woman willingly spreads her legs, gets pregnant as a result whether that was the intention or not, then kills the result, she's showing an irresponsible, illogical mindset.
4.) What she's saying is it's OK to kill something you don't like if it's inconvenient to you.

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1.) sp far thread history doesnt support that claim
2.) yes you expressed that opinion before but it will never be anything more than that. Your feelings are not equal to facts nor do they trump facts
3.) once again that is not a fact thats your feelings. theres nothign you said was fact or even close LMAO Millions of people have had abortions based on thier feelings of responsibility and morals to do so. Your feelings dont trump theirs and vice versa. Your feelings arent special and you dont get to force them on others :shrug:
4.) and ANOTHER feeling and not a fact.

again you are allowed to feel how you do . . .thats your right but facts dont care about your feelings and thats all you posted . . feelings . .

if you disagree by all means please support your claims with actual FACTS that make them true, thanks!

CFI302 said:

Are you saying that an unborn rabbit could be a child when born? If not, invalid comparison.

Why should she get help for a choice she made and one in which she told others to butt out of when making it? Punishing those of us that didn't make the decision is inhumane. I didn't make the choice, she did. That means it's not my place to help pay for it.

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Fine... don't help her. some will suffer big time til other selfish women realize that they better be more responsible and NOT have sex until they want to be a mother and/or abort an unwanted pregnancy...

An a born rabbit is much more important than a human embryo.