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Would you raise taxes to make abortion safe?

LowDown said:
They would say the same to you.

IMHO these issues should be settled democratically. I would accept a majority vote. I'm not really happy with the black robed priests on the SCOTUS deciding it. We can see by the Kavenaugh dumpster fire where that leads us.
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Well you would lose that vote currently
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Are you asserting that these folks wanted abortions and are simply being turned away by PP? Obviously, folks are not going to abort (potential) children that they want.
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Women who want children usually have about 2 children whether they need welfare or not.
 
minnie616 said:
Women who want children usually have about 2 children whether they need welfare or not.
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OK, but many folks want cars, cellphones, televisions, cable TV, designer clothing, air conditioning, nice apartments and medical care insurance whether they need 'welfare' or not. It seems that your interpretation of 'pro-choice' simply means that whatever is chosen should (must?) be paid for by others if one's paycheck is deemed too small.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That is what CPS does (or at least should do) when children are not being properly cared for. There is a wide margin between removing by force and offering a financial reward for adding (more) children. Step one - no more raises in benefits for adding children to 'needy' households. Step two - a lifetime limit of 5 years of "safety net" assistance based on having minor dependents.
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Foster care was about $40,000 a year per child in 2006.

From the following article:
Despite more than a decade of intended reform, the nation's foster care system is still overcrowded and rife with problems. But taxpayers are spending $22 billion a year-- or $40,000 a child -- on foster care programs.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/FosterCare/story?id=2017991
Facts on Foster Care in America - ABC News


Compare that to the average cost per year of raising a middle income child born in 2013.

The average cost of raising a child is $13,600 a year according to this 2013 stat.

From the U.S. department of Agriculture.
The average cost of raising a child born in 2013 up until age 18 for a middle-income family in the U.S. is approximately $245,340 (or $304,480, adjusted for projected inflation), according to the latest annual “Cost of Raising A Child” report from the U.S.
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Department of Agriculture.Aug 18, 2014
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but many folks want cars, cellphones, televisions, cable TV, designer clothing, air conditioning, nice apartments and medical care insurance whether they need 'welfare' or not. It seems that your interpretation of 'pro-choice' simply means that whatever is chosen should (must?) be paid for by others if one's paycheck is deemed too small.
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You were saying if taxpayers pay to any more to support welfare children , that would encourage welfare moms to have more children so they could collect more children.

What about the child tax credit on the IRS forms?
Are the middleclass Families having more than 1 child so they can take take avantage of the tax credit?
The average family ( on welfare or not on welfare ) has 1.9 childen
 
Atheist 2020 said:
What we need is more abortions to decrease the human populations. To save the earth, we need to get the human population to be under 500 million by 2250.
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If over-population is what yo are truly concerned about, then you should be preaching this to the countries that are over-populated like China and India.
 
I would be willing to live under raised taxes. In general, it seems the Democrats want to pay now for benefits received, but Republicans still want the benefits, but never want to pay for them, In this case SOME Republicans will oppose the proposed "benefit", because they wrongly think that newborns represent only a positive.
 
Let's disect your question…"would you raise taxes" ? no, they are way too high now. "taxes to make abortion"? public money should never be used for abortion.

"abortion safe" abortions are never save for the fetus. If an individual woman insists on having her fetus aborted, it should be at her own expense.

Isn't it curious that liberal democrats are against "ripping children from their mothers", but for abortion?

Atheist 2020 said:
Would you raise taxes to make abortion safe?

It is time to have socialized medicine and make the federal government run abortion providers to get around state rules. It is also time to pay women to have abortions. I'm looking at $5,000 per-abortion. The conservatives make the argument that poor women have children to get government aid, a $5,000 cash deal would lower poor women having children.
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sly said:
Let's direct your question…"would you raise taxes" ? no, they are way too high now. "taxes to make abortion"? public money should never be used for abortion.

"abortion safe" abortions are never save for the fetus. If an individual woman insists on having her fetus aborted, it should be at her own expense.

Isn't it curious that liberal democrats are against "ripping children from their mothers", but for abortion?
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I live in one of the most Conservative cities in the U.S. I've talked to MANY Conservatives who not only support a female's legal right to receive an abortion, many of the same Conservatives have also received abortions. They also would have no problem paying more taxes to help pay for abortions for those who can't afford to pay for abortions,regardless of political affiliation/ideology.
 
Did I say or imply that I'm against a woman's right to make that choice?

Maybe people should voluntarily pay into a fund for abortions. But no one should ever be forced to pay into it.

Logician Man said:
I live in one of the most Conservative cities in the U.S. I've talked to MANY Conservatives who not only support a female's legal right to receive an abortion, many of the same Conservatives have also received abortions. They also would have no problem paying more taxes to help pay for abortions for those who can't afford to pay for abortions,regardless of political affiliation/ideology.
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sly said:
Did I say or imply that I'm against a woman's right to make that choice?

Maybe people should voluntarily pay into a fund for abortions. But no one should ever be forced to pay into it.
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PP gets a huge amount of private donations. It's also tax deductible.
 
sly said:
Did I say or imply that I'm against a woman's right to make that choice?

Maybe people should voluntarily pay into a fund for abortions. But no one should ever be forced to pay into it.
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Are you equally against paying for women to gestate and give birth?
 
By quoting my post, you were implying your statement had something to do with mine.

Logician Man said:
Nope. I made a statement. How is that implying anything about you, or your post?
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sly said:
By quoting my post, you were implying your statement had something to do with mine.
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That doesn't mean I implied anything about your post though. I only responded to to your post. Correct?
 
Logician Man said:
That doesn't mean I implied anything about your post though. I only responded to to your post. Correct?
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Giving yourself that username doesn't mean you know anything about logic or reasonable thought.
 
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