View Poll Results: When is it ethically justified to abort?

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  • Only if the mom's life/health is in danger

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  • Only if it's the result of a rape (or there's a health issue)

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  • Any time before viability

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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Fewer and fewer people are believing in the Bible and Gods... and that is a very good thing.
    I gotta admit that I'm just a little bit concerned at the idea that someone/thing is watching and I'm not doing it right.

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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by grainbelt View Post
    I gotta admit that I'm just a little bit concerned at the idea that someone/thing is watching and I'm not doing it right.

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    I am not sure what that means... you want to do whatever right because somebody is spying on you?
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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not sure what that means... you want to do whatever right because somebody is spying on you?
    Not quite, but what the definition of right is plays into it. My definition of right includes not needlessly and intentionally hurting others and not being a waste of potential. Is that correct? Do I get to decide what's right? Is there some other score keeper pr scoring system that will judge? And if not should I be trying to have as many children as possible to pass on my genes? Should I just be selfish and live it up? Idk. Some science suggests what we experience is like a hologram. Like i'm just a pancake observing myself reacting to the crevice I reside in.

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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by grainbelt View Post
    Not quite, but what the definition of right is plays into it. My definition of right includes not needlessly and intentionally hurting others and not being a waste of potential. Is that correct? Do I get to decide what's right? Is there some other score keeper pr scoring system that will judge? And if not should I be trying to have as many children as possible to pass on my genes? Should I just be selfish and live it up? Idk. Some science suggests what we experience is like a hologram. Like i'm just a pancake observing myself reacting to the crevice I reside in.

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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Like what would be a case for abortion?

    (And you have to 'have' the law to examine things 'case by case' and the law would then have the implications that I listed and you didnt address...where women's rights to privacy and due process would need to be violated.)

    So what would the law be? Can you describe it?
    Sorry, I'm not a legal scholar or even a lawyer. And if you don't have such a background either, you would likely not interpret the law correctly.
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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Sorry, I'm not a legal scholar or even a lawyer. And if you don't have such a background either, you would likely not interpret the law correctly.
    So again you are indicating a desire for laws that we have no need for.

    You have no examples and you have no idea what laws would be possible.

    The question was if it was ethical, (right or wrong) for the govt to use force to make women remain pregnant?

    And you said you believed there were reasons to do so...but can come up with none. Nor the justification for the laws (whatever they'd be) to violate women's Constitutional rights.

    What sort of 'discussion' on ethics are you looking for, exactly? As I already wrote, yeah, the questions and answers ARE tough.

    But to avoid the tough questions is just moral cowardice.
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    Point to the tax codes, of any kind, that say the actual passage:"abortion is not murder".
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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So again you are indicating a desire for laws that we have no need for.

    You have no examples and you have no idea what laws would be possible.

    The question was if it was ethical, (right or wrong) for the govt to use force to make women remain pregnant?

    And you said you believed there were reasons to do so...but can come up with none. Nor the justification for the laws (whatever they'd be) to violate women's Constitutional rights.

    What sort of 'discussion' on ethics are you looking for, exactly? As I already wrote, yeah, the questions and answers ARE tough.

    But to avoid the tough questions is just moral cowardice.
    I am not avoiding any discussion of ethics. You are continuing to try to force the topic to morph into something else. It won't work.
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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I am not avoiding any discussion of ethics. You are continuing to try to force the topic to morph into something else. It won't work.
    No, I'm not. You just dont want to tackle the tough questions. Because IMO, it would show you dont hold the moral High Ground that you believe you do.

    What's the point of a thread on ethics if people arent ethical enough to participate honestly?
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    Point to the tax codes, of any kind, that say the actual passage:"abortion is not murder".
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    Re: When is it ethically okay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Fewer and fewer people are believing in the Bible and Gods... and that is a very good thing.
    No, that is a bad thing. Look at how atheism, false religion and hedonoism has turned whole nations into savage barbarian dictatorships, creating millions of refugees begging to come to God bless America.

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