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You existed when you were conceived

roguenuke said:
How can one begin at conception and the other after if you don't know the egg will split into two until it happens?
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Some hindsight is involved - if no splitting occurs, then the conceived cell mass maintained its individual integrity from the point of conception. However, I will submit that during the first few days, the possibility of twinning suggests that during that few days' time, the individuality of the cell mass is not completely established.
 
PragmaticOne said:
If existence is contingent upon memories, then you did not exist as a baby eating baby food. But you did exist, even if you have no memory of it. You also existed as an embryo after you were conceived.
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Your tortured logic leads you to the conclusion that abortion is wrong. Fine, no one, you or anyone else should be forced to have one. Others may conclude that you are peddling nonsense. And that attempts are made, year in year out, to force religious beliefs upon US society. Not in Swedish society btw; here abortion rights ceased to be an issue a long time ago.
 
Sweden said:
Your tortured logic leads you to the conclusion that abortion is wrong. Fine, no one, you or anyone else should be forced to have one. Others may conclude that you are peddling nonsense. And that attempts are made, year in year out, to force religious beliefs upon US society. Not in Swedish society btw; here abortion rights ceased to be an issue a long time ago.
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There are people all around the world who kill their children after the children are born. People will kill children at any time between their infancy and adulthood; toddler, prepubescent, teenager, etc. They all believe they have the right to kill their children, and it is not an "issue" for them.
 
PragmaticOne said:
There are people all around the world who kill their children after the children are born. People will kill children at any time between their infancy and adulthood; toddler, prepubescent, teenager, etc. They all believe they have the right to kill their children, and it is not an "issue" for them.
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Your attempt at an anology is a complete failure.

The majoritory of Americans agree that Roe should not be overturned.

From a January 2013 article :

By Aaron Blake January 22, 2013


It's hard to get 70 percent of Americans to agree on much of anything these days. But, for the first time, one of those things is Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion.

According to a new poll from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal, released on the law's 40th anniversary Tuesday,
fully seven in 10 Americans say they would oppose the overturning of the Supreme Court decision.

And perhaps more remarkably, 57 percent say they "feel strongly" that it should not be overturned.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...king-about-roe-v-wade/?utm_term=.4d5e0936dbd0
 
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Sweden said:
Your tortured logic leads you to the conclusion that abortion is wrong. Fine, no one, you or anyone else should be forced to have one. Others may conclude that you are peddling nonsense. And that attempts are made, year in year out, to force religious beliefs upon US society. Not in Swedish society btw; here abortion rights ceased to be an issue a long time ago.
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Same here in Belgium. Nobody gets het up about it.
 
PragmaticOne said:
There are people all around the world who kill their children after the children are born. People will kill children at any time between their infancy and adulthood; toddler, prepubescent, teenager, etc. They all believe they have the right to kill their children, and it is not an "issue" for them.
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I've posted this b4 .I'll post it again.Anyone who has any knowledge of demographics should realize that the majority of abortions performed in the U.S. are received by women who identify as "Christians,'...not 'loonie lefties'
 
PragmaticOne said:
The first stage of your life was as an embryo. You existed as an embryo "from fertilization to the beginning of the third month of pregnancy." An abortion would have put an end to your existence.

You are able to read this because your mother did not kill you after you were conceived. If your mother had an abortion after you were conceived, she would have killed YOU.

If you disagree, then you are saying that YOU were not conceived and YOU did not exist when your mother was pregnant. Perhaps you think your mother was pregnant with someone else who later morphed into you. It is a simple fact that women bear children, and an abortion kills a child.

You existed when your mother became pregnant with YOU. Born is the past participle of bear. You were BORN by your mother for nine months, from the moment of conception to the moment she gave birth.

The American people must first understand that an abortion brings an end to a human life. Only then can they decide when it should be legal.
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What if the embryo has multiple personalities?
 
SheWolf said:
What if the embryo has multiple personalities?
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What if it's a level 1 human with no class?

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