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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Yep. I agree.

    So what are you arguing against now?
    Making sure some nuance is clear.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well holy crap! I just found one. And I agree with your assessment.
    There is someone else here who is okay with killing it after birth and before it is "claimed" and named.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well holy crap! I just found one. And I agree with your assessment.
    There's a few others as well but they don't post often in here. You should do some reading up on Peter Singer. The guy is a king when it comes to defending infanticide.
    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Hanging your hat entirely on the CURRENT legality of something you want to be legal and others want to make illegal does not constitute a salient argument. At all.
    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    What is "alive" and how does it apply to the fetus?

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    There is someone else here who is okay with killing it after birth and before it is "claimed" and named.
    Komir the Rat is his name Scrabaholic. Then a long time ago there was someone from France who was also ok with infanticide but I forgot his screen name.
    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Hanging your hat entirely on the CURRENT legality of something you want to be legal and others want to make illegal does not constitute a salient argument. At all.
    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    What is "alive" and how does it apply to the fetus?

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    I try to keep it civil despite the person attacks on my character... yes.
    No you don't. You wantonly impugn the motivations and intentions of those who disagree with you in order to cast yourself as opposing evil, rather than people who have in good faith come to a differing conclusion than yourself and/or who may even have good reasons for believing what they do.

    Exactly my point. BUT they would most absolutely be in favor of laws.. that would put that 14 year old child in jail for murder.
    You are most absolutely incorrect. Maybe you should bother learning about the people you slander, instead of attacking a cartoon version of them in ignorance?

    That's the point I have been making. The anti abortion crowd's position is not based on reality, on science, logic or even compassion. Its a knee jerk emotion reaction that's based on some warped moral standard.

    As soon as we get into a discussion of the nuts and bolts of how an anti abortion stance would work under the law.. .. the anti abortion premise false flat on its face.

    That's the irony here. I am not projecting a simplistic view. I am pointing out the actual real world gray areas involved.
    No you aren't. You are projecting a simple world, where those who disagree with you are "not based on reality, on science, logic or even compassion" but rather "knee jerk emotion reaction that's based on some warped moral standard"

    Are you really this self-unaware?


    Actually what I described above.. when an abortion is performed because of risks to the mother or risk to the child are more the norm. Particularly in the US today
    You are woefully incorrect. While we should be thankful that instances of sexually enslaved, beaten, drugged, and raped 14 year olds is vanishingly rare, they are not the norm for abortions in the U.S.


    You antiabortion folks put yourself in knowing what is best for that family and child. And you don't have a clue. All you are promoting is more suffering and death.
    Says the man actually promoting suffering and death.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    I provided sufficient information.
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    Again.. My father is on life support and suffering. I order the lifesupport removed to end his suffering.

    Do you want me arrested for murder?
    that isn't sufficient information at all. You haven't even mentioned whether your father is conscious, whether he left a living will, what his odds for recovery are.

    There are situations where stripping live-saving care from people can be murder, and there are ways in which taking someone off a machine can not be murder.

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