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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And like I have shown earlier women still risk not only abortions that are poorly preformed (see maternal death rates with abortion in counties like El Salvador)and risk lengthy prison sentences. Of note, women who miscarry in those countries are also falsely accused (and convicted) of having abortions. Women are forced to have babies after rape, they are forced to endure accusations of abortion, even though....as we all know, a large proportion of pregnancies are miscarried. Any woman that miscarries that expresses normal apprehension and fear about pregnancy is ripe for being snitched on if she miscarries. Doctors and nurses are changed from patient advocates to informants if they feel the woman had an abortion or caused herself to miscarry.


    Yeah, making long term abortion safer, more accessible, and affordable is a much better alternative.


    Telling people not to have sex "or else" is never going to be a winning proposition.
    Talking to brick walls is just not my thing.

    Please take your droning on and on nonsense somewhere else, please. You are particularly unpersuasive on the issue... plus you have no willingness to back up your convictions when you might have an actual point.

    That is just time wasting.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Talking to brick walls is just not my thing.

    Please take your droning on and on nonsense somewhere else, please. You are particularly unpersuasive on the issue... plus you have no willingness to back up your convictions when you might have an actual point.

    That is just time wasting.
    And slut shaming and fingerwagging, even when backed up by potential murder charges is a not just a waste of time, but counter productive. Especially in the US. Folks will just obtain abortion pills from their local pusher...or similar source. Counties that had no access to Planned Parenthood before...will now have access to abortion pills because a void was created and entrepreneurs (pushers) will take financial advantage. If you do not see that happening, you are beyond nave. I actually want abortion rates to drop.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And slut shaming and fingerwagging, even when backed up by potential murder charges is a not just a waste of time, but counter productive. Especially in the US. Folks will just obtain abortion pills from their local pusher...or similar source. Counties that had no access to Planned Parenthood before...will now have access to abortion pills because a void was created and entrepreneurs (pushers) will take financial advantage. If you do not see that happening, you are beyond nave. I actually want abortion rates to drop.
    Well, we will try it our way and see if you are right.

    Might cut down drastically on the near million murders committed each year by this method. Have already explained what to do with death pill pushers ad nauseum.

    In the meantime, establish a fund, do what you feel right with the expensive contraception model, nobody is stopping you... both can occur similtaneously. Yano?

    On your mark, get set...GO.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, we will try it our way and see if you are right.

    Might cut down drastically on the near million murders committed each year by this method. Have already explained what to do with death pill pushers ad nauseum.

    In the meantime, establish a fund, do what you feel right with the expensive contraception model, nobody is stopping you... both can occur similtaneously. Yano?

    On your mark, get set...GO.
    Hold on Sparky....you seem to forget RvW is still the law of the land.

    Seems you suffer from premature adjudication.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, we will try it our way and see if you are right.

    Might cut down drastically on the near million murders committed each year by this method. ...
    Actually the numbers of elective abortions have been cut down drastically and elective abortions before viability are legal in the U.S.

    The latest stats currently available are from 2014.

    From the CDC:


    In 2014, 652,639 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate for 2014 was 12.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, and the abortion ratio was 186 abortions per 1,000 live births.

    Compared with 2013, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2014 decreased 2%, and the ratio decreased 7%.
    Additionally, from 2005 to 2014, the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 21%, 22%, and 22%, respectively.

    In 2014, all three measures reached their lowest level for the entire period of analysis (2005—2014)
    https://www.cdc.gov/reproductiveheal...s/abortion.htm
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Hold on Sparky....you seem to forget RvW is still the law of the land.

    Seems you suffer from premature adjudication.
    Elections have consequences. We won.

    Ring any bells? We will see who has the last laugh. I ll bet you predicted correctly who d win the 2016 presidential election, too, eh?

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually the numbers of elective abortions have been cut down drastically and elective abortions before viability are legal in the U.S.

    The latest stats currently available are from 2014.

    From the CDC:



    https://www.cdc.gov/reproductiveheal...s/abortion.htm
    Cool.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Elections have consequences. We won.

    Ring any bells? We will see who has the last laugh. I ll bet you predicted correctly who d win the 2016 presidential election, too, eh?
    Dude, it has not been overturned yet. Your absolute certainty sounds more like you believe he will make a faith based decision rather than one that is Constitutionally appropriate.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Wrong. Ignorantly impossible. Does your arm have different DNA does it? Or your kidneys?
    It is a fact that a fetus is part of a woman's body until it isn't. If you want to call it a baby, that's your choice. But you have to come to terms with the fact that it's the woman's baby; it's not yours, and it's not society's. You're simply having an emotional reaction to people who don't share your opinion.

    A baby in the womb is a potential person. Whether or not that potential is realized is up to the owner of the womb, and not to unrelated parties like yourself who have nothing but a self-serving emotional investment in the outcome.

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    Re: Roe vs Wade can be reversed?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Dude, it has not been overturned yet. Your absolute certainty sounds more like you believe he will make a faith based decision rather than one that is Constitutionally appropriate.
    Laughable...uh, sparkless.

    The decision has nothing to do with faith. Even atheists understand the concept of murder. Science understands the difference between the development of the egg and sperm separate from the development of the two combined. Its a human, its alive. The new life, to establish its nascent independence, has a completely different DNA.

    That the decision is the same for both, Constitutionally and faith based, is a happy coincidence. Funny... that this coincidence occurs frequently with many of our laws.

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