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Clinics That Refer Women For Abortions Would Not Get Federal Funds Under New Rule

Bucky, you stated on previous threads that you were an employee at Planned Parenthood.

You should know that abortions are the one service that Planned Parenthood gets paid in full for. They are either paid by the patient or from donations that are targeted for abortions. Some women have abortions covered by insurance. The procedure itself only lasts a few minutes and does not take a lot of extra equipment. The $350-700 (est) that Planned Parenthood is paid, should fully cover staff and operating costs. So if anything...abortions help cover the costs of the other services which include contraception and cancer screenings and pre-cancer treatments.

There is no need to have federal funds cover abortions.

Bucky....you need to pick a stance. On one hand you insinuate that "comingled" funds are needed to prop up the abortion side of PP....and you also have indicated that PP is making huge profits performing abortions.

Seriously, it becomes more difficult to believe anything you say.

As someone asked already in this thread, so PP has two separate bank accounts?

And why is the administration doing this? They are trying to make our tax laws simpler. This has nothing to do with family planning or women rights.
 
Bucky, you stated on previous threads that you were an employee at Planned Parenthood.

You should know that abortions are the one service that Planned Parenthood gets paid in full for. They are either paid by the patient or from donations that are targeted for abortions. Some women have abortions covered by insurance. The procedure itself only lasts a few minutes and does not take a lot of extra equipment. The $350-700 (est) that Planned Parenthood is paid, should fully cover staff and operating costs. So if anything...abortions help cover the costs of the other services which include contraception and cancer screenings and pre-cancer treatments.

There is no need to have federal funds cover abortions.

Bucky....you need to pick a stance. On one hand you insinuate that "comingled" funds are needed to prop up the abortion side of PP....and you also have indicated that PP is making huge profits performing abortions.

Seriously, it becomes more difficult to believe anything you say.

And that's an absolute disgrace. In no way should abortions be covered by insurance. Liposuction is not covered by insurance, why should abortion?

Again, WTF??? That's shameful.
 
Where are your facts? And FYI would what the administration be doing this if it wasn't a problem?

Pres. Trump has been doing a lot of good things. Delivering trade deals with S, Korea, China, meeting with N. Korea. Simply too many wins to count. Have some faith instead of complaining. Let life be your medicine because Trump has been doing great.

Still dodging and running away from your failed OP LMAO
Anyway when you can support the lies you got caught posting and you have factual proof of your false claims please let us know, thanks!
 
Still dodging and running away from your failed OP LMAO
Anyway when you can support the lies you got caught posting and you have factual proof of your false claims please let us know, thanks!

Again, why is the administration doing this if it wasn't a problem? Are they doing this simply to attack women?
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...r-clinics-that-discuss-abortion-with-patients

Thank goodness. From a moral standpoint, I found it immoral that millions of Christians and morally ethical people were being forced to subsidize abortions.

Planned Parenthood performs over 300k abortions a year. Who are they kidding when they claim abortions makes up a small portion of their business services? The funds PP receives from Title X funds are co-mingled with all other funds. They only have one account.

The idea behind this is not to attack women's right but to separate abortion from all the other wonderful services this organization provides. Abortion has nothing to do with family planning. It is family ending. Let's not confuse the two as being mutually beneficial.

PP prevented twice as many pregnancies as it aborted. Contraception is 34% of it's services while abortion is 3%. PP charges it patients at least $500 for abortion while contraception is usually free. There is no evidence that title 10 funds are used for abortions and ending Govt. support for PP will most certainly mean an increased demand for abortions due to more unwanted pregnancies. Is that your aim? More unwanted pregnancies and children?
 
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PP prevented twice as many pregnancies as it aborted. Contraception is 34% of it's services while abortion is 3%. PP charges it patients at least $500 for abortion while contraception is usually free. There is no evidence that title 10 funds are used for abortions.

Stop just stop with that 3% crap. Please just stop.

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Did you know burgers make up only 3% of McDonald's menu? Does that mean McDonald's isn't a burger company?
 
Again, why is the administration doing this if it wasn't a problem? Are they doing this simply to attack women?

Again, still waiting for you to provide ONE fact that supports your op and makes it true. Why do you keep dodging? its VERY telling. You either can do it or you cant. LMAO
Please do so now, thanks
 
And that's an absolute disgrace. In no way should abortions be covered by insurance. Liposuction is not covered by insurance, why should abortion?

Again, WTF??? That's shameful.

Interesting you completely avoid me totally tearing down your "comingling argument":lamo
 
Again, why is the administration doing this if it wasn't a problem? Are they doing this simply to attack women?

Please don't so be naive. Trump is pandering to evangelists who voted for the philanderer purely because he would do unconscionable things like this. They hate the fact the PP prevents over 500,000 unwanted pregnancies a year. God is supposed to punish loose women with children, didn't you know that either?
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...r-clinics-that-discuss-abortion-with-patients

Thank goodness. From a moral standpoint, I found it immoral that millions of Christians and morally ethical people were being forced to subsidize abortions.

Planned Parenthood performs over 300k abortions a year. Who are they kidding when they claim abortions makes up a small portion of their business services? The funds PP receives from Title X funds are co-mingled with all other funds. They only have one account.

The idea behind this is not to attack women's right but to separate abortion from all the other wonderful services this organization provides. Abortion has nothing to do with family planning. It is family ending. Let's not confuse the two as being mutually beneficial.

Abortion is not necessarily "family ending".

A woman might abort a second child for financial reasons then have another child later, making a total of two children in her "family".
 
Again, still waiting for you to provide ONE fact that supports your op and makes it true. Why do you keep dodging? its VERY telling. You either can do it or you cant. LMAO
Please do so now, thanks

The study, led by Reps. Black, Olson and Senator Ernst, was requested by more than 120 Members of the House and Senate. GAO found that these three organizations spent $410 million in federal funding between 2013 and 2015, and received $1.2 billion combined federal and state funds under federal health programs that require shared funding. In short, more than $1.5 billion in tax dollars went to abortion providers over a three-year period.

Report Shows $1.5 Billion of Your Tax Dollars Goes to Planned Parenthood and Abortion Clinics | LifeNews.com

According to its 2014-2015 annual report, Planned Parenthood performed 323,999 abortion procedures in just one year. Taxpayers should not be forced to subsidize the abortion industry in this country. Nor should they be forced to foot the bill for an organization like Planned Parenthood that has displayed such blatant disregard for human life.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...rotecting-our-most-vulnerable/article/2613098
 
Abortion is not necessarily "family ending".

A woman might abort a second child for financial reasons then have another child later, making a total of two children in her "family".

Abortion is family ending indeed. Life is ending for that second child. You cannot bring that second child back.
 
Stop just stop with that 3% crap. Please just stop.

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Did you know burgers make up only 3% of McDonald's menu? Does that mean McDonald's isn't a burger company?

Do you believe that God punishes loose women with children too? PP prevents over 500,000 unwanted pregnancies a year. How many more abortions would there be without PP?
 
Abortion is family ending indeed. Life is ending for that second child. You cannot bring that second child back.

even by your own definition its still planning since people often plan endings :shrug:
good job proving your self factually wrong LMAO
 
Do you believe that God punishes loose women with children too? PP prevents over 500,000 unwanted pregnancies a year. How many more abortions would there be without PP?

unwanted by whom? God? Society?
 
unwanted by whom? God? Society?

LOL Why I am not surprised that you don't know that women have the right to control their own bodies. Many men resent that, usually it is because they are ignorant pricks that women want nothing to do with. Is that your problem?
 
unwanted by whom? God? Society?

There’s tens of thousands of kids in the US alone...just waiting for YOU BUCKY to take care of them. Get them out of the hell that apparently God doesn’t care about. But we all know that you do.
 
Show us where 1.5 billion is subsidizing abortions.

Abortion is the one service that Planned Parenthood gets paid for in full. It is the one aspect of Planned Parenthood that does not need extra money. Woman walks in. Pays $350 -$700 (approx.)for a service that does not take a lot of time or equipment and she is out the door.

They need the money for the services that they lose money on....contraception, cancer/std screenings, early cancer treatments, annual exams, STD treatments, etc.

The only time (and it is not usual) that PP may lose money is if the woman get an abortion on Medicaid (rape or health exceptions to Hyde Amendment) -Medicaid may reimburse, but not full cost.

Again, in general PP is getting full cost for abortions, they do not need subsidy for them. They need funding for services they lose money on.

BTW, are you posting opinion pieces as an argument to support your cause?:doh
 
unwanted by whom? God? Society?

Are you saying that God or society should decide FOR a woman that she should have a kid against her will?
 
I can assure you a baby is never unwanted by the mother. Never.

Wow, that's so obviously wrong...why would you even post it?
 
There’s tens of thousands of kids in the US alone...just waiting for YOU BUCKY to take care of them. Get them out of the hell that apparently God doesn’t care about. But we all know that you do.

There are over 100,000 kids in the US waiting for adoption.

Bucky fails again.
 
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