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    Re: Abortion and the Earnings Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Women are not held accountable? How in the hell do you figure that? Seriously?
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    Thrill us with your acumen.
    I think it's pretty obvious, women make a choice, and men pick up the tab.

    I'm a man. If I make a choice, does a women pick up the tab because I feel like it? No, because I'm a man. I pick up after myself. I don't expect other people to carry around my business for me because I'm male. Women expect men to do things for them because they are female.

    If you're willing to sell my DNA to the state for a little bit of financial reprieve every month, then you have no respect for my privacy. And frankly that is what you have suggested via paternity testing. I should not be responsible for the decisions of a woman on the basis of whether or not I had sex with her. That's ****ing dumb!

    If a woman earns less because she works less because she is raising children, perhaps she should be supported by the state in that endeavor. You don't see the state coming after female DNA. Why should men be forced to prop up a woman's failing budget? In my opinion, an earnings gap should not be resolved on the basis of whether or not a prostitute has had sex with a wealthy john. An earnings gap can be economically resolved by better accounting for a natural, regularly occurring biological condition experienced by some section of the female population.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Then, you can't complain about this.
    That's the thing about living in a free country, you don't get to pick and choose the rights you want protected. Either they're all protected, or none of them are.

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    Re: Abortion and the Earnings Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    Did you really just ask me what's abusive about not allowing women abortions? I can't tell because your punctuation is so goddamn terrible your posts are practically unreadable.
    Well then feel free to explain this, as I wrote, it was not clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    Very well Lursa: when a woman is barred from having an abortion, she is not forced to become a mother. She chose to gamble and then lost. How many people who do this would be called abusive? But according to you, it is perfectly fine to treat women this way.
    What does that mean?
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    See thatís the problem with believing the devils lies. The unborn arenít imaginary.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Abortion and the Earnings Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    Perfect explanation for why forced fatherhood benefits the state. Right now men are picking up the tab by being held accountable for a decision made by women. If it's your body and your choice, then I have no control over the outcome of a pregnancy.

    Women should ask for public assistance if it is necessary, and men and women should both pay taxes. If a tax funded program can ensure the well being of children, like public education does, then that's fine.
    Why should the taxpayers pay for something that both people knowingly risked creating? If you gamble and lose, you pay. BOTH pay.

    Why should taxpayers pay MORE...we are already stuck with a million other things where we are unable to hold people accountable.

    If you knowingly put your future in the hands of a woman who has control over her own reproductive decisions and arent willing to accept the consequences...you are not a victim. You are foolish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    See thatís the problem with believing the devils lies. The unborn arenít imaginary.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Abortion and the Earnings Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    Give me a break. You don't give a **** about protecting men. You think we should erect barriers between men and women. You want to sterilize men. Rendering a party impotent to perform some action is another form of state control over that party, isn't it? Do you think that banning guns will help to protect conservative gun rights advocates?

    Here's the difference between gun control and male control: men are people and guns are property. You want to treat men like property. You want to treat men like slaves.
    I, a man, want to treat men like slaves. Mmm...that must be it... lol.

    This whole initiative is a joke, as are your assumptions about what I think and do not think. I mean, I could talk about supporting better options for male contraceptives, I could talk about looking at different things I would support looking at in family law that are statistically unfair to men...but that's not what you want to talk about. You want carte blanche to be as irresponsible as you like, and you're using a woman's right to bodily autonomy - which is the same as yours, by the way - as a way to justify it. Pathetic.

    And since the laws are not at risk of changing, and all this impotent whining and complaining and the inspiring of zero sympathy at all will result in nothing but your own frustration and general rejection by people who have even the most modest levels of maturity and decency, I get to leave it there, smugly, knowing that all you can do is make wildly inaccurate judgements of me on an anonymous debate forum, and that children will continue to be protected from men who are too stupid to control where they leave their sperm.

    Ah well, this wasn't a complete waste, I always welcome a chuckle on Monday morning, no matter where they come from. So thanks.
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    Re: Abortion and the Earnings Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post

    This whole initiative is a joke,
    And their "patron saint" that 'invented the opt out has admitted as much and is now just leading his followers around by their noses.

    Selfishness and bitterness can really blind people to reality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    See thatís the problem with believing the devils lies. The unborn arenít imaginary.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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