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Child Support Payback

Bodi

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Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.

She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.

Child cared for.

Promotes personal responsibility.

Promotes consequences for an action.

This is a new thought for me and will evolve.

This could and should become law.
 
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.

She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.

Child cared for.

Promotes personal responsibility.

Promotes consequences for an action.

This is a new thought for me and will evolve.

This could and should become law.

The money is not gor the parent with custody but for the offspring of the parents involved.
 
I support the option to opt out of paternal rights and responsibilities early in the pregnancy. But failing that, no, I do not support this payback proposal.
 
The money is not gor the parent with custody but for the offspring of the parents involved.

Irrelevant. The money is being taken from the man forcefully against his will for her decision to not abort,.
 
I support the option to opt out of paternal rights and responsibilities early in the pregnancy. But failing that, no, I do not support this payback proposal.

Fair enough. May I ask why?
 
Fair enough. May I ask why?

Because it is child support. It is for the benefit of the kid, not the mom. If anyone should have to pay it back it should be the kid. ;)
 
If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions get a vasectomy.
 
No way! The man is just as culpable as the women in creating a child.
Besides, it requires more than just money to rear a child.


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Because it is child support. It is for the benefit of the kid, not the mom. If anyone should have to pay it back it should be the kid. ;)

It is *ostensibly* for the benefit of the child. The egg donor could easily spend the money on nose candy.
 
If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions get a vasectomy.

The woman doesn't have to take responsibility for her actions regardless. Once the kid gets to be about 10 years old, she can become a lady of leisure, living off an ex-husband and the state.
 
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.

She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.

Child cared for.

Promotes personal responsibility.

Promotes consequences for an action.

This is a new thought for me and will evolve.

This could and should become law.

So, in the scenario, is the woman working and supporting the child as well?

(Not that it matters that much:2razz:)
 
It is *ostensibly* for the benefit of the child. The egg donor could easily spend the money on nose candy.

Sure, some people will always abuse the system.
 
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.

She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.

Child cared for.

Promotes personal responsibility.

Promotes consequences for an action.

This is a new thought for me and will evolve.

This could and should become law.

Nonsense, utter nonsense, this should and could not become law because it is literally Bull Crap.

She has to pay him back for them having a child :lamo

Promotes personal responsibility :lamo Sure, except the personal responsibility of the man who made her pregnant.

Promotes consequences for an action? What action would that be then? The action of how dipstick made a woman pregnant by having sex with her? Or the action of the sperm meeting an egg and the egg embedding itself? That action? Or the action where she thinks abortion is a sin and not has one? That action? Or the fact that a judges orders him to pay support to the child he made possible? That action?

So hell no, that is in no way fair, logical, honest, in accordance with law or reality. Any lawmaker who tries to bring such a law should be laughed out of congress by his colleagues, then have him be recalled in a special election and ceremonially kicked out of office and normal society.

Also, the child support he paid went to the child and stands into no comparison to the actual cost of raising a child, he should feel lucky he got away that cheaply.
 
Irrelevant. The money is being taken from the man forcefully against his will for her decision to not abort,.
It is certainly is relavant.

He would be paying child support because he decided to have sex and ended up becoming a father.

His responsibility is to the child not to the mother. No child no payment
 
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.

She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.

Child cared for.

Promotes personal responsibility.

Promotes consequences for an action.

This is a new thought for me and will evolve.

This could and should become law.

Man doesn't wear condom in this scenario I am assuming. I am also assuming this is a pro-abortion argument.
 
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.

She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.

Child cared for.

Promotes personal responsibility.

Promotes consequences for an action.

This is a new thought for me and will evolve.

This could and should become law.

Women gets pregnant because man slept with her without using protection.
Man is responsible for his kid.

Man cannot throw his kid on the rest of society to take care of.
Women and man both have an equal share in raising said child.

This promotes personal responsibility.
Promotes consequences of actions.

It is a good thing this is already law.
 
I support the option to opt out of paternal rights and responsibilities early in the pregnancy. But failing that, no, I do not support this payback proposal.

Why should you be able to ditch your duty on the rest of society.
You had a chance to opt out.

You didn't take it.
 
A man always has an option, to think with his head or his little head. When he thinks with his little head , it is no excuse for opting out of whatever he foolishly obligated his DNA and pockets to deal with. But a coward ducks, runs and hides. There's no justification for a coward's actions, or justification for not standing up to the responsibilities he created, and he gets no sympathy when he whines about the results. It takes two to tango. If one doesn't like the dance, live like a wallflower and converse with handgelica, his first experience.
 
Man doesn't wear condom in this scenario I am assuming. I am also assuming this is a pro-abortion argument.

No no no. Bodhi gets like this every so often.
He like other men have to pay child support.

They chose to have kids or get the women they were with pregnant.

Bodi's argument is that he should be able to sleep around and if he gets someone pregnant not his issue.
It is pretty much the epitome of a lack of personal responsibility.

He goes further to argue that he didn't get pregnant the that he had nothing to do with it.
His lack of biology knowledge is amazing.
 
Why should you be able to ditch your duty on the rest of society.
You had a chance to opt out.

You didn't take it.

Neither did the woman. If the woman doesn’t want to foot the bill then she too can abdicate her rights and responsibilities.
 
Neither did the woman. If the woman doesn’t want to foot the bill then she too can abdicate her rights and responsibilities.

Nope. Once the deed is done it is too late.
You should have opted out before or taken better precautions.

Which is why both parents are expected to support said child.
 
Nope. Once the deed is done it is too late.
You should have opted out before or taken better precautions.

Which is why both parents are expected to support said child.

Nope. You got several months after the deed is done before it is too late.
 
Nope. You got several months after the deed is done before it is too late.

You still have to support your child. I suggest using contraceptives.
Or better yet don't sleep with a women you don't want to get pregnant.
 
Because it is child support. It is for the benefit of the kid, not the mom. If anyone should have to pay it back it should be the kid. ;)

Alright kid... get your check book out!! :lol:
 
If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions get a vasectomy.

No way! The man is just as culpable as the women in creating a child.
Besides, it requires more than just money to rear a child.


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The argument is paying the father back for a child he did not want and the womanhad knowing that. If she knew she would have to pay it back then what is wrong? The kid was taken care of. Why should he have to pay for her choice. It is immoral.
 
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