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soylentgreen said:
Well according to your own words then that child was abused.



So i am guessing when you said this you must have meant men can bring up achild by themselves hile poor but omen cannot.
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Do you think there are only wealthy and poor people in the world? Really?
 
soylentgreen said:
Not at all, I do not unlike you, judge the woman for exercising her right to choose. Where as because you do not want to be held responsible for your on actions you will demonise women as being selfish.
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I do judge her. I have that right. I will not interfere with her decision though. She can make any decision she wants. Let the government stay out of it
 
vegas giants said:
Relax. It's just a pill. You will be fine
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Lursa said:
What "pill?"

Are the "pills" coming for you?

There's no "pill" in this conversation...do you have something topical to discuss?
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Lursa said:
Vegas....what "pill" do you see?

Is a white rabbit holding it?

Are the "pills" floating down from a cloud?

OMG...do the "pills" speak to you?

Truly, your random thoughts are not "discussion." If you need a break for clarity, I recommend it.
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:lamo:lamo

Please let me know when you have something "new". The vegassing really doesnt ever cover any new ground.
 
vegas giants said:
I do judge her. I have that right. I will not interfere with her decision though. She can make any decision she wants. Let the government stay out of it
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Why do we have child support laws?

If you care about "the children" why dont you want the govt to make sure that their parents take care of them?
 
Lursa said:
Why do we have child support laws?

If you care about "the children" why dont you want the govt to make sure that their parents take care of them?
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We do make sure parents take care of them. Men should be able to opt out of parenthood because women can post conception. You just made my point. Lol
 
Lursa said:
:lamo:lamo

Please let me know when you have something "new". The vegassing really doesnt ever cover any new ground.
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You are talking to yourself again. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
And when men get a post conception opt out they can equally control their finances
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Good luck with that. My gut says the taxpayers will be disinclined to pay for a child they did not create unless absolutely necessary.

If the biological father or mother has financial resources, those need to be tapped before the taxpayers.


I am curious, as much as you try to get men off the hook for providing for their children....are you also (near as aggressively) preaching personal responsibility (thinking condoms or advocating for better BC choices for men)?
 
year2late said:
Good luck with that. My gut says the taxpayers will be disinclined to pay for a child they did not create unless absolutely necessary.

If the biological father or mother has financial resources, those need to be tapped before the taxpayers.


I am curious, as much as you try to get men off the hook for providing for their children....are you also (near as aggressively) preaching personal responsibility (thinking condoms or advocating for better BC choices for men)?
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All parties should be responsible. But I don't tell women they can't have an abortion if they did not use birth control. They have a right to an abortion and men have a right to an opt out
 
vegas giants said:
All parties should be responsible. But I don't tell women they can't have an abortion if they did not use birth control. They have a right to an abortion and men have a right to an opt out
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You can't tell a woman she cannot have an abortion because you are not entitled to her health care decisions.

You never ever seem to learn.
 
vegas giants said:
We do make sure parents take care of them. Men should be able to opt out of parenthood because women can post conception. You just made my point. Lol
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no, you just pointed out your hypocrisy again.

If you cant make women have abortions, you cant let men opt out. That is the opposite of "making sure parents take care of them." :doh

And the opt out 'incentives nothing,' lack of $$ from the father never stopped women from having babies thru history...it wont stop it now. You just use that as a "pretend justification" with no foundation in reality.
 
year2late said:
You can't tell a woman she cannot have an abortion because you are not entitled to her health care decisions.

You never ever seem to learn.
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You're not entitled to my money either.

If I never learn you can leave at any time
 
Lursa said:
no, you just pointed out your hypocrisy again.

If you cant make women have abortions, you cant let men opt out. That is the opposite of "making sure parents take care of them." :doh

And the opt out 'incentives nothing,' lack of $$ from the father never stopped women from having babies thru history...it wont stop it now. You just use that as a "pretend justification" with no foundation in reality.
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Well some women do make incredibly selfish decisions that are bad for kids....decisions you support. I want to stop incentivizing those child abuse decisions.
 
vegas giants said:
Well some women do make incredibly selfish decisions that are bad for kids....decisions you support. I want to stop incentivizing those child abuse decisions.
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Lursa said:
And the opt out 'incentives nothing,' lack of $$ from the father never stopped women from having babies thru history...it wont stop it now. You just use that as a "pretend justification" with no foundation in reality.
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Please read more completely.

Oh, and dont lie...I never said I support women having kids they cant afford.
 
Lursa said:
Please read more completely.

Oh, and dont lie...I never said I support women having kids they cant afford.
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Why you support the incredibly selfish decisions of women that amount to child abuse is beyond me.
 
Lursa said:
Oh, and dont lie...I never said I support women having kids they cant afford.
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vegas giants said:
Why you support the incredibly selfish decisions of women that amount to child abuse is beyond me.
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So? Another lie that is reflected completely as such in the post you quoted?

Well I guess more vegassing is in order:

Why do you want men to be able to opt out of their financial responsibilities so that their kids suffer?

Why do you hate kids?

Lesson: lying doesnt enable discussion.
 
Lursa said:
So? Another lie that is reflected completely as such in the post you quoted?

Well I guess more vegassing is in order:

Why do you want men to be able to opt out of their financial responsibilities so that their kids suffer?

Why do you hate kids?

Lesson: lying doesnt enable discussion.
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Blah blah blah....you hate kids

Blah blah blah....you are lying

copied for repost as needed
 
vegas giants said:
You're not entitled to my money either.

If I never learn you can leave at any time
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I am not asking you for money. Leave me out of your paranoid fantasies.
 
vegas giants said:
Good. Glad you support a post conception opt out for men. Thanks
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No I do not. I am responding to thinking I am personally after your money.

Since you consistently are not responding to my statements appropriately, I will assume that your responses are trolling.
 
year2late said:
No I do not. I am responding to thinking I am personally after your money.

Since you consistently are not responding to my statements appropriately, I will assume that your responses are trolling.
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Assume as you will
 
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