Male Opt Out

**Bodhisattva** · 04-16-18, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by ecofarm

"Woman, you will abort that baby or die penniless. I will have no responsibility for my actions".

Yeah, that's not Stone Age. Maybe the man should be allowed to sell the woman to recoup his costs?

Selling people is illegal...

**year2late** · 04-16-18, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by vegas giants

Yep. And after conception there is a remedy that relieves both parties of any financial liability. If one party does not want to take it then they assume financial liability. That can apply to the man or woman.

When a woman aborts, it is usually not just about money. She is not in a social, physical, financial, emotional postion to be pregnant - let alone have a child.

**HowardBThiname** · 04-16-18, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

You are not addressing the topic and this has nothing to do with my situation or kids... it has to do with a couple of guys I know that were tricked into becoming a parent in addition to unfair laws.

I read your story and am not writing you off but you need to stop transfering your anger onto me.

I've come close a couple of times to mentioning this but held off -- waiting until someone else brought it up. It's incredibly embarrassing to me as a woman to know that other women do this, yet, I have known these types of women since I just a young girl. What they do should shame them to their very core, because it gives all women a bad name. It makes women appear to be needy, dishonest and deceptive.

Whisper, a website that allows members to share secrets is a repository of admissions from women who have tricked boyfriends/husbands. Scrolling down through these will make you nauseous.
https://www.babygaga.com/15-whisper-...nto-pregnancy/

Sadly, these women have no self-esteem, and the current laws not only protect them, but encourage a whole new generation of females to pull the same trick.

**Bodhisattva** · 04-16-18, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by HowardBThiname

I've come close a couple of times to mentioning this but held off -- waiting until someone else brought it up. It's incredibly embarrassing to me as a woman to know that other women do this, yet, I have known these types of women since I just a young girl. What they do should shame them to their very core, because it gives all women a bad name. It makes women appear to be needy, dishonest and deceptive.

Whisper, a website that allows members to share secrets is a repository of admissions from women who have tricked boyfriends/husbands. Scrolling down through these will make you nauseous.
https://www.babygaga.com/15-whisper-...nto-pregnancy/

Sadly, these women have no self-esteem, and the current laws not only protect them, but encourage a whole new generation of females to pull the same trick.

I had one good friend actively go out and find the "right guy" and she dated him a couple of weeks or so loving him up and at least twice getting him drunk enough to not use condoms in order to get pregnant because she wanted to be a mom. She dumped him when she was prgnant and hit him for child support. She was no longer my or our friend.

**HowardBThiname** · 04-16-18, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

I had one good friend actively go out and find the "right guy" and she dated him a couple of weeks or so loving him up and at least twice getting him drunk enough to not use condoms in order to get pregnant because she wanted to be a mom. She dumped him when she was prgnant and hit him for child support. She was no longer my or our friend.

Sadly, that's not an unusual story.

**Bodhisattva** · 04-16-18, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by HowardBThiname

Sadly, that's not an unusual story.

I know guys do all sorts of immoral stuff but women do this stuff too... some of those comments were so wrong.

**Removable Mind** · 04-16-18, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by HowardBThiname

Sadly, that's not an unusual story.

Do you consider this type of situation the rule, not the exception?

**MrWonka** · 04-16-18, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

Men need to be able to opt out of Child Support if they do not want to be a father (legally). The woman can use her legal Constitutiinal right to birth control if she does not want to or can not support the child on her own. (Of course there are some exceptions).

Question: If you cause a traffic accident, can the government force you to donate blood in order to save the life of the person whose car you hit?
Answer: Abso****inglutely not!

Question: If you cause a traffic accident, can the government force you to pay the medical bills incurred by the person whose car you hit?
Answer: Asbso****inglutely yes!

QED
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**Bodhisattva** · 04-16-18, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by MrWonka

Question: If you cause a traffic accident can the government force you to donate blood in order to save the life of the person whose care you hit?
Answer: Abso****inglutely not!

Question: If you cause a traffic accident can the government force you to pay the medical bills incurred by the person whose care you hit?
Answer: Asbso****inglutely yes!

QED
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How do traffic accidents relate to abortion?

**year2late** · 04-16-18, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

I had one good friend actively go out and find the "right guy" and she dated him a couple of weeks or so loving him up and at least twice getting him drunk enough to not use condoms in order to get pregnant because she wanted to be a mom. She dumped him when she was prgnant and hit him for child support. She was no longer my or our friend.

She would not be my friend either. Still his responsibility to protect himself.
Kind of like drinking and driving ...your judgement is impaired but you still have responsibility

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