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If the NRA owns Republicans, Planned Parenthood owns Democrats

minnie616 said:
It proves you do not know the difference between a dismemberment D and E and an intact D and E.

The D in D and E stands for dilation ( not dismemberment ). Dialation means the stretching of cervix and the E stands for evacuation. D&E also sometimes called dilation and extraction)

You made the mistake of calling the D and E dismemberment abortion and intact D and E.

As I said intact DAnd E means there was no dismemberment .... the fetus is removed whole in an intact D and E.
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Agreed. D&E is Dilation and Evacuation.

The vast majority of the civilized world, and yes, including the left's lauded European nations, have pretty much a universal ban on abortion after 20 weeks gestation, unless medical necessity exists.

And still . . . .

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Can't think of a more weaker member of society than an unborn fetus.
 
Reformedfindlay said:
If my memory serves, Planned Parenthood does everything it can to PREVENT the need for abortions in the first place.

Ya know, condoms and what-not.

In a similar fashion, the NRA actually does everything it can to PREVENT accidental firearms deaths in the first place.

Ya know, with safety and gun handling training courses and what-not.
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But Planned Parenthood doesn't do what they can to make sure a woman has a penis that can fire 60 shots a minute into a vagina. So your analogy fails.

But frankly, like I said earlier....I do not want our big money going into the politicians hands anyway. It is tantamount to a bribe in my humble opinion.
 
Lursa said:
Of course I want more because the bold is a complete lie. Please source all of that.

It actually does the opposite.

(and the first part is completely irrelevant. But society DOES pay $$$$ in public assistance and crime and juvenile delinquency and kids that get less opportunities in life and continue the cycle....kids born into socio-economically challenged homes are at a much higher risk of all these things...harming society)

So you didnt tell me any negatives on abortion at all. Zero.

Like I said, the bold is completely wrong.
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If a rapist knew that their victim could not get an abortion, they would less likely commit a rape or sexual assault a woman. The number of rape victims has significantly increased ever since Roe v Wade was passed.

The bold is not completely wrong. The number of sexual assaults has increased. It would decrease with stronger abortions laws.
 
Bucky said:
It takes a village to raise a child. The mother is never alone. Society has her back. The question is, does abortions actually correct a person's mistake or behavior? It does not.

Abortions increase the crime rate, increases rapes, increases violence against women. Do you want more?
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Tell me how society always has a woman's back.

I think vastly different.

I am not sure if you are lying or just naïve.

In terms of abortion increasing crime rate...PREGNANCY increases murder rate in women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_women
 
Bucky said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...mocrats-christian-schneider-column/372679002/

I am curious to why Planned Parenthood gets a free pass from the media. They are spending about $20 million for a Big Abortion campaign against Trump/Republicans. How is being bought by the NRA a bad thing yet being bought by PP a good thing?

IMO it is hypocritical to say someone is bought by the NRA yet stay silent when many leftist politicians are raking in tons of donations from this controversial organization that still performs partial-birth abortions (which is illegal) and sells human body parts.
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Planned Parenthood is considered a health organization, that's why.
 
year2late said:
Yes McDonalds is in it for profits. Planned Parenthood is not.
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year2late said:
Well, most of what Planned Parenthood (does) is not abortions. They offer services that are difficult to get (due to location and appointment availability) at FQHC.

Planned Parenthood is not advertising abortions. Most of their services are not abortion.

McDonalds is selling hamburgers. They advertise changes in their burgers to lure more customers in so they can profit.
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Bucky said:
I'll ask my question again:

What health provider provides the most abortions, legal or illegal, in the United States?

You got own word right: profits.
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You know Planned Parenthood is a non profit organization. Why are you lying again?
 
year2late said:
Tell me how society always has a woman's back.

I think vastly different.

I am not sure if you are lying or just naïve.

In terms of abortion increasing crime rate...PREGNANCY increases murder rate in women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_women
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You have to consider a rapists mindset. He doesn't want to be reminded of his crime and has to support a child the rest of his life. If you ban abortions, a rapist would be less inclined to commit or attempt a rape, which again, has been on the rise ever since Roe v. Wade became law.
 
year2late said:
Yes McDonalds is in it for profits. Planned Parenthood is not.
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year2late said:
Well, most of what Planned Parenthood is not abortions. They offer services that are difficult to get (due to location and appointment availability) at FQHC.

Planned Parenthood is not advertising abortions. Most of their services are not abortion.

McDonalds is selling hamburgers. They advertise changes in their burgers to lure more customers in so they can profit.
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Bucky said:
You have to consider a rapists mindset. He doesn't want to be reminded of his crime and have to support a child and be reminded of his actions for the rest of his life. If you ban abortions, a rapist would be less inclined to committ or attempt a rape, which again, has been on the rise ever since Roe v. Wade became law.
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You seriously think that???????

Please, can you show me some peer reviewed publication that shows stats on this??
 
year2late said:
You seriously think that???????

Please, can you show me some peer reviewed publication that shows stats on this??
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Yes, absolutely. I am little tired right now after eating some mushroom risotto. Let me take a nap and I'll address your post.
 
Bucky said:
Why don't rapists wear condoms?
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What the hell are you talking about?

I asked for peer reviewed stats that backs up your assertions that banning abortions would decrease rape rates.
 
year2late said:
What the hell are you talking about?

I asked for peer reviewed stats that backs up your assertions that banning abortions would decrease rape rates.
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Thanks, year2late. If you look at countries with a low # of rapes, they typically have strict abortion laws. China and Ireland come into mind.
 
HowardBThiname said:
This is an odd comparison and I'm not sure it's valid. The reason (although they'll swear it's not the reason) democrats are so adamant about funding PP is because it's substantially cutting down on minority births that would increase the number of people in poverty. Right now, even with PP, more than 70% of black babies are born to single mothers, which weighs heavily on the taxpayer. Democrats understand that we cannot promote mass breeding of poor people because it would destroy our economic system. Republicans (most of them) understand that, too, which is why we still fund PP....

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Black women put that tired old myth to rest decades ago...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_and_birth_control
 
Bucky said:
Thanks, year2late. If you look at countries with a low # of rapes, they typically have strict abortion laws. China and Ireland come into mind.
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I asked for peer reviewed articles.

Links would be nice.

And I am still waiting for your evidence to counter your lie that Planned Parenthood is for profit.
 
Bucky said:
If a rapist knew that their victim could not get an abortion, they would less likely commit a rape or sexual assault a woman. The number of rape victims has significantly increased ever since Roe v Wade was passed.

The bold is not completely wrong. The number of sexual assaults has increased. It would decrease with stronger abortions laws.
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None of that is remotely true. Where do you get this crap?

Please provide sources (but I know there arent any).
 
Bucky said:
You have to consider a rapists mindset. He doesn't want to be reminded of his crime and has to support a child the rest of his life. If you ban abortions, a rapist would be less inclined to commit or attempt a rape, which again, has been on the rise ever since Roe v. Wade became law.
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Completely false.

Sources or stop posting completely false garbage.
 
HowardBThiname said:
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Gun control is just a bunch of liberals making loud noises. But, not all democrats support gun control measures, and our Constitution supports gun rights, so it's unlikely we'll ever see much change in that area. We'll see small changes, and they'll be implemented and then reversed, depending on which way the political pendulum sways, but we'll never see big changes because SCOTUS will boot them out.
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"Separate but equal", the huge lie of the USA lasted from 1896 until 1954 when the US Supremes wrote a song entitled "You been racist assholes for much too long, USians". That's 58 years of holding to something as stupid as what the NRA is all about.

From 1865 until the 1896 Plessy decision, there had been no national SC sanctioning of the US virulent racism. People just did it because they were racist assholes. It was to them as natural as breathing.
 
Lursa said:
The unborn are not remotely part of society :doh
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I suppose it depends on where you draw the bounds of inclusion and exclusion of society.

But I get it. Fetuses are worthless and worthy of discarding without a second thought, apparently.
 
year2late said:
But Planned Parenthood doesn't do what they can to make sure a woman has a penis that can fire 60 shots a minute into a vagina. So your analogy fails.

But frankly, like I said earlier....I do not want our big money going into the politicians hands anyway. It is tantamount to a bribe in my humble opinion.
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Sounds like someone is salty that what the NRA protects has solid, enumerated constitutional foundations, much unlike that of what planned parenthood protects.

I guess in that sense, you're right, my analogy did fail :)
 
Lursa said:
Completely false.

Sources or stop posting completely false garbage.
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The sources are in the numbers.

#1 Countries will less strict abortions laws have higher victims of sexual assault. The United States has quite liberal abortion laws and rising number victims of sexual assault/rape.

My sources? These are the facts. Look them up yourself.
 
year2late said:
I asked for peer-reviewed articles.

Links would be nice.

And I am still waiting for your evidence to counter your lie that Planned Parenthood is for profit.
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Peer-reviewed articles for what????????

I find it baffling that you would request something from me so blatantly obvious. Is the sky blue? Do I need to provide peer-reviewed studies for that?

You are not going to change human behavior through twitter mobs, hashtag movements, and speeches. The only way to reduce the number of sexual assaults and rapes is through changing the law.

Trump made a good example of this when he praised China's laws who put drug dealers on death row. If we have strict punishments against rapists, instead of viewing them as patients, and enforce a zero-tolerance policy towards abortion, the number of rapes/sexual assaults would go down significantly, I am sure of that.
 
Moot said:
Black women put that tired old myth to rest decades ago...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_and_birth_control
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Your link supports my assertion more than it disproves it. :roll:

While PP is good for poor women, I'm not saying it isn't, we still have people in power today that want to make sure impoverished women do not breed. Up until just recently, California was still pushing sterilization for imprisoned women, and black women figure heavily into that number. When forced eugenics fell out of favor, birth control that focused on keeping minorities and the poor from breeding took its place. I'm not saying it's not a good thing -- I'm just saying it happened -- and, it's still happening. And, the democratic party is typically behind it.
 
Bucky said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...mocrats-christian-schneider-column/372679002/

I am curious to why Planned Parenthood gets a free pass from the media. They are spending about $20 million for a Big Abortion campaign against Trump/Republicans. How is being bought by the NRA a bad thing yet being bought by PP a good thing?

IMO it is hypocritical to say someone is bought by the NRA yet stay silent when many leftist politicians are raking in tons of donations from this controversial organization that still performs partial-birth abortions (which is illegal) and sells human body parts.
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The rumor is about that all union members vote D. Not the case.
 
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