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Good article exposing the faux cries for life.

The American church faces a similar issue of credibility―in outspokenly crying out for anti-abortion policies, they reveal their lack of credibility in engaging in a more holistic pursuit of life for all. The American church is compromised by its single-issue martyrdom complex that asserts political moral superiority based on a commitment to “pro-life” politics, while being attached to a Republican party that espouses anti-life policy and rhetoric at every turn.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...37be4b044b3821e19e2?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
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That quote pretty much mirrors arguments I've made in here for years.

Moreover:

One can, as a Christian, claim to be pro-life and use that stance to establish moral high ground in political conversations. It is acceptable for them to call those who don’t share their anti-abortion position “baby-killers,” while also supporting the use of drones, nuclear weapons, ignoring gun violence and continuing to support a criminal justice system that takes people’s lives with the death penalty, or prevents people from having access to resources that would ensure a quality of life that matches Jesus’ clear instructions to meet and care for people’s practical needs―the metric that Jesus used to test whether people actually know him.

...American Christians reveal not only their lack of care for holistic life politics but a fundamental misunderstanding of the way of Jesus. Conservative Christians are not pro-life, they are simply anti-abortion.
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Simply put: there is more to being pro-life than just being anti-abortion. No one, and I mean no one, who supports Donald Trump can legitimately claim to be pro-life or pro-Jesus. Those are simply not compatible.
 
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calamity said:
Simply put: there is more to being pro-life than just being anti-abortion. No one, and I mean no one, who supports Donald Trump can legitimately claim to be pro-life or pro-Jesus. Those are simply not compatible.
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If they are "pro" anything...it is pro-fetus.

I wholeheartedly agree with your posts. The way they have turned being pro-life into a single issue is micromanaging Jesus to the extreme.
 
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calamity said:
Simply put: there is more to being pro-life than just being anti-abortion. No one, and I mean no one, who supports Donald Trump can legitimately claim to be pro-life or pro-Jesus. Those are simply not compatible.
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Pro-life isn't the only reason why many Christians support Trump.

Obama/Clinton are promoting and paving the way for a Godless society (secularism).
That in itself, is reason enough to support Trump.
 
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tosca1 said:
Pro-life isn't the only reason why many Christians support Trump.

Obama/Clinton are promoting and paving the way for a Godless society (secularism).
That in itself, is reason enough to support Trump.
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I guess the porn star and ***** grabbing doesn't trump the lip service. :doh
 
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tosca1 said:
Pro-life isn't the only reason why many Christians support Trump.

Obama/Clinton are promoting and paving the way for a Godless society (secularism).
That in itself, is reason enough to support Trump.
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If the government can take away your God....your faith.....it was never there in the first place.
 
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calamity said:
Good article exposing the faux cries for life.



That quote pretty much mirrors arguments I've made in here for years.

Moreover:
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What is the so-called "anti-life" policy of the Republican Party? The use of drones, nuclear weapons, gun violence, etc..., all that are mentioned are not really "anti-life."
The obviously liberal columnist had taken the Bible out of context, or she doesn't understand what she's talking about.


A nation isn't forbidden to go to war, or to wage war.....as long as it is a righteous war in the eyes of God.
A ruler/king in the Bible, was responsible for the security of his people!
Drones and weapons of mass destruction are but the current-day equivalent to catapaults, swords and arrows of ancient times.



What's this about ignoring gun violence? Hey......even Apostles carried weapons. In Jesus' time - it was the sword.

You are allowed to defend yourself, or those that are vulnerable. Death penalty is also allowed. The ruler or the judge has to be fair though, when meting out judgements and punishments.


Access to resources that ensures "quality of life," is an invention by the liberal-minded. You're now skirting towards materialism. The Bible doesn't teach to make everyone EQUALLY prosperous! You don't covet what others have. Period.

Besides, you don't rely on society - you rely on God!
That doesn't mean though that you don't have to do anything - you have to be willing to work.

It's not nations that were instructed. It's the people. We are individually instructed to help others.
It has to be voluntary - not compulsory!





Ecclesiastes 3

A Time for Everything

3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

2
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,

3
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,

4
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,

5
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,

6
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,

7
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,

8
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
 
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tosca1 said:
What is the so-called "anti-life" policy of the Republican Party? The use of drones, nuclear weapons, gun violence, etc..., all that are mentioned are not really "anti-life."
The obviously liberal columnist had taken the Bible out of context, or she doesn't understand what she's talking about.


A nation isn't forbidden to go to war, or to wage war.....as long as it is a "righteous" war in the eyes of God.
A ruler/king in the Bible, was responsible for the security of his people!
Drones and weapons of mass destruction are but the current-day equivalent to catapaults, swords and arrows of ancient times.

What's this about ignoring gun violence? Hey......even Apostles carried weapons. In Jesus' time - it was the sword.

You are allowed to defend yourself, or those that are vulnerable. Death penalty is also allowed. The ruler or the judge has to be fair though, when meting out judgements and punishments.


Access to resources that ensures "quality of life," is an invention by the liberal-minded. You're now skirting towards materialism. The Bible doesn't teach to make everyone EQUALLY prosperous! You don't covet what others have. Period.

Besides, you don't rely on society - you rely on God!
That doesn't mean though that you don't have to do anything - you have to be willing to work.

It's not nations that were instructed. It's the people. We are individually instructed to help others.
It has to be voluntary - not compulsory!





Ecclesiastes 3

A Time for Everything

3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

2
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,

3
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,

4
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,

5
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,

6
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,

7
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,

8
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
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No...

"The English word "nations" is used in the New International Version to translate several Hebrew terms. Most often it refers to goyim, a word thought to derive from gowy [y/G], which means "body" of a person and thus by extension, the corporate body of a people."
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/the-nations/
 
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calamity said:
Good article exposing the faux cries for life.
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"Faux cries for life" makes your intent here clear.

I take exception to your quoted "Conservative Christians are not pro-life, [sic] they are simply anti-abortion." I am a conservative (generally) who is pro-life, and I believe in the inherent dignity and value of every human life from the moment of conception until natural death, including those who are most likely to be marginalized—the very old, the very sick, the very disabled, and the youngest of us all, the unborn.

Being pro-life isn’t just about being opposed to elective abortion on demand; it’s about respecting life, however inconvenient that life is, and abortion is only one of the complicated issues that challenge individual and collective conscience.
 
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nota bene said:
"Faux cries for life" makes your intent here clear.

I take exception to your quoted "Conservative Christians are not pro-life, [sic] they are simply anti-abortion." I am a conservative (generally) who is pro-life, and I believe in the inherent dignity and value of every human life from the moment of conception until natural death, including those who are most likely to be marginalized—the very old, the very sick, the very disabled, and the youngest of us all, the unborn.

Being pro-life isn’t just about being opposed to elective abortion on demand; it’s about respecting life, however inconvenient that life is, and abortion is only one of the complicated issues that challenge individual and collective conscience.
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I take it you find it inconvenient when a woman elects to have an abortion prior to 20 weeks.
 
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tosca1 said:
Obama/Clinton are promoting and paving the way for a Godless society (secularism).
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I DON'T SEE YOU SPECIFYING WHY THAT IS A BAD THING. Especially when so-called "Godly" societies gave us such things as the genocide in Canaan by the Hebrews, and the Spanish Inquisition, and even the Holocaust (caused by Godly Nazis).

PERHAPS YOU DON'T KNOW that the concept known as "ethics" can allow a society to work just fine without any God added to it?
 
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tosca1 said:
What is the so-called "anti-life" policy of the Republican Party?
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HERE AND HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES.

tosca1 said:
The use of drones, nuclear weapons, gun violence, etc..., all that are mentioned are not really "anti-life."
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TRUE, BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITION. In general the targets of such devices are humans, not "life" generically. We don't use nuclear weapons to kill an infestation of fire ants or kudzu, for example.

IN ACTUAL FACT, the definition of "life" is such that it is almost impossible for any abortion opponent to actually be "pro life" --not a one of them can survive without being a part of the killing of other life-forms for food. Abortion opponents are only "pro human life", and all other life can DIE, as far as they are concerned.

tosca1 said:
The obviously liberal columnist had taken the Bible out of context, or she doesn't understand what she's talking about.
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FALSE, because idiot conservatives seem to think that the Commandment against murder is not actually part of the Bible.

tosca1 said:
A nation isn't forbidden to go to war, or to wage war.....as long as it is a righteous war in the eyes of God.
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MORE STUPID HYPOCRISY. Who decides what does or does not qualify as "righteous in the eyes of God"? Greedy preachers who want more tithers born, just so they can get richer? Greedy preachers who want other religions stamped out, just so that those tithers will now tithe to the greedy preachers, thereby letting them get richer still? There is no way you will ever convince me that the greedy preachers who wrote the Bible had anything other than their own interests in mind!

tosca1 said:
Access to resources that ensures "quality of life," is an invention by the liberal-minded.
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STUPIDLY FALSE. Because it ignores that fact that without some minimum quality of life, people die. While you might find some liberals who want everyone to be better-off than the bare minimum, it appears that only conservatives want to make things worse for everyone but themselves.

tosca1 said:
You're now skirting towards materialism.
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BUT NOT ACTUALLY PROMOTING IT. Don't mix apples and oranges!

tosca1 said:
You don't covet what others have. Period.
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YOU DON'T MURDER. Period! And directly killing folks by poisoning, via air and water pollution, counts as murder.
 
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nota bene said:
"Faux cries for life" makes your intent here clear.
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THE INTENT WAS TO EXPOSE HYPOCRISY. As the title of this Thread clearly indicates!

nota bene said:
I take exception to your quoted "Conservative Christians are not pro-life, [sic] they are simply anti-abortion."
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FACTS ARE FACTS. Complaining about them doesn't change them.

nota bene said:
I am a conservative (generally) who is pro-life,
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AND YOU ARE SPOUTING A STANDARD STUPID LIE. Simply because you, just like all the other conservatives out there, are associated with the killing of other life-forms every single day, just so you can eat. The phrase "pro life" does not say anything at all about limits on the types of life one wishes to promote and/or protect and/or any other "pro" word.

nota bene said:
and I believe in the inherent dignity and value of every human life from the moment of conception until natural death,
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WHICH MAKES YOU "PRO HUMAN LIFE", someone exhibiting Stupid Prejudice in favor of humans over all other life-forms. Tsk, tsk!

FURTHERMORE, YOU BLATHERED ANOTHER STANDARD STUPID LIE. Because a human hydatidiform mole originates in a conception event (just like a normal human embryo), and fully qualifies as 100% "human life", yet not even the most vehement of abortion opponents will insist it has any value at all (to say nothing of dignity). When will you-all abortion opponents learn to be precise in the claims you make, instead of nonsensically blathering too-broad generalities?

nota bene said:
including those who are most likely to be marginalized—the very old, the very sick, the very disabled,
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ALL OF WHICH ALMOST ALWAYS QUALIFY AS PERSONS WITH RIGHTS. And since the U.S. Constitution-plus-Amendments use the word "person" throughout, and don't use the word "human" even once, it should be obvious that it only promotes "person rights" and not "human rights". When will you-all abortion opponents Accept Reality, instead of lying about it?

nota bene said:
and the youngest of us all, the unborn.
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WHICH PROVABLY CANNOT POSSIBLY QUALIFY AS PERSONS. You might as well insist on rights getting granted to hydatidiform moles!

nota bene said:
Being pro-life isn’t just about being opposed to elective abortion on demand; it’s about respecting life, however inconvenient that life is, and abortion is only one of the complicated issues that challenge individual and collective conscience.
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STUPIDLY FALSE, as explained in the first parts of this message. Abortion only targets unwanted mere-animal entities, not persons. It is no different from targeting other unwanted animals, such as parasites.
 
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tosca1 said:
What is the so-called "anti-life" policy of the Republican Party? The use of drones, nuclear weapons, gun violence, etc..., all that are mentioned are not really "anti-life."
The obviously liberal columnist had taken the Bible out of context, or she doesn't understand what she's talking about.


A nation isn't forbidden to go to war, or to wage war.....as long as it is a righteous war in the eyes of God.
A ruler/king in the Bible, was responsible for the security of his people!
Drones and weapons of mass destruction are but the current-day equivalent to catapaults, swords and arrows of ancient times.



What's this about ignoring gun violence? Hey......even Apostles carried weapons. In Jesus' time - it was the sword.

You are allowed to defend yourself, or those that are vulnerable. Death penalty is also allowed. The ruler or the judge has to be fair though, when meting out judgements and punishments.


Access to resources that ensures "quality of life," is an invention by the liberal-minded. You're now skirting towards materialism. The Bible doesn't teach to make everyone EQUALLY prosperous! You don't covet what others have. Period.

Besides, you don't rely on society - you rely on God!
That doesn't mean though that you don't have to do anything - you have to be willing to work.

It's not nations that were instructed. It's the people. We are individually instructed to help others.
It has to be voluntary - not compulsory!





Ecclesiastes 3

A Time for Everything

3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

2
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,

3
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,

4
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,

5
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,

6
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,

7
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,

8
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
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Oh look! A Bible quote.

Do you have one condemning abortion, or just quotes justifying war?
 
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1) Huffington Post is hyper liberal so this is partisan as heck to start with. As in, one can safely assume the purpose of writing this is not to inform people

2) "Single Issue Martydom" - this person is obviously making a caricature of "The Church" which is so broad a term its not even funny. Though I'm atheist, I've been to many churches and when politics come up, there's a discussion of a variety of social issues

3) Oh no someone acting moral superior! Its not like both sides do that and the left will call you "Anti Choice" and pretend you want to enslave women, if you want reasonable restrictions on abortion. AS IN, the USA is one of about 3 other countries that allowed 3rd trimester abortion. All over the world everyone agrees 3rd trimester is murder, and yet we still allow it.

4) There's a difference between killing a baby, and attacking terrorists. Like, does anyone remember the recent terror attack in NEW YORK CITY??? The US government exists to protect its own citizens, not to be a beacon of righteous godly justice - and I'm a conservative saying that! Most conservatives agree with me! The American Government exists for America!

5) "Ignoring gun violence" - the massacres that occur in gun free zones? Or the massacres associated with Obama's Fast and Furious Scandal?

6) Yes Jesus did preach to help others, but anyone even vaguely familiar with the bible understands that while that CAN apply to everyone it MUST apply to people within the church first. God's chosen people must stand together and help one another and form community to protect their shared values. If someone is outside the church, they're a lower priority. So again, HuffPo doesn't understand basic christian values.

7) And of course, everyone is anti-life unless the government confiscates people's wealth and funnels it all into planned parenthood. Well guess what, I guess that makes me pro abortion since the government is still funding planned parenthood to this day

Talk about a waste of time that only seems like hard hitting journalism to people who have never stepped foot inside a church, but heard John Stewart make fun of them, so churchs must be bad!

SAD!
 
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nota bene said:
"Faux cries for life" makes your intent here clear.

I take exception to your quoted "Conservative Christians are not pro-life, [sic] they are simply anti-abortion." I am a conservative (generally) who is pro-life, and I believe in the inherent dignity and value of every human life from the moment of conception until natural death, including those who are most likely to be marginalized—the very old, the very sick, the very disabled, and the youngest of us all, the unborn.

Being pro-life isn’t just about being opposed to elective abortion on demand; it’s about respecting life, however inconvenient that life is, and abortion is only one of the complicated issues that challenge individual and collective conscience.
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If you think the mother's will should be overcome to give birth, you do not value her dignity and you dont value both equally. You respect the life of the unborn more. If you think pro-life strangers know better than she does what's in her best interests for her future and the best interests of her family, that is the opposite of respect. You are valuing the unborn over women.
 
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WarmPotato said:
1) Huffington Post is hyper liberal so this is partisan as heck to start with. As in, one can safely assume the purpose of writing this is not to inform people

2) "Single Issue Martydom" - this person is obviously making a caricature of "The Church" which is so broad a term its not even funny. Though I'm atheist, I've been to many churches and when politics come up, there's a discussion of a variety of social issues

3) Oh no someone acting moral superior! Its not like both sides do that and the left will call you "Anti Choice" and pretend you want to enslave women, if you want reasonable restrictions on abortion. AS IN, the USA is one of about 3 other countries that allowed 3rd trimester abortion. All over the world everyone agrees 3rd trimester is murder, and yet we still allow it.

4) There's a difference between killing a baby, and attacking terrorists. Like, does anyone remember the recent terror attack in NEW YORK CITY??? The US government exists to protect its own citizens, not to be a beacon of righteous godly justice - and I'm a conservative saying that! Most conservatives agree with me! The American Government exists for America!

5) "Ignoring gun violence" - the massacres that occur in gun free zones? Or the massacres associated with Obama's Fast and Furious Scandal?

6) Yes Jesus did preach to help others, but anyone even vaguely familiar with the bible understands that while that CAN apply to everyone it MUST apply to people within the church first. God's chosen people must stand together and help one another and form community to protect their shared values. If someone is outside the church, they're a lower priority. So again, HuffPo doesn't understand basic christian values.

7) And of course, everyone is anti-life unless the government confiscates people's wealth and funnels it all into planned parenthood. Well guess what, I guess that makes me pro abortion since the government is still funding planned parenthood to this day

Talk about a waste of time that only seems like hard hitting journalism to people who have never stepped foot inside a church, but heard John Stewart make fun of them, so churchs must be bad!

SAD!
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Nice rant. Welcome to the Abortion sub-forum.

Maybe your post was about that topic but it was hard to interpret. So I didnt.
 
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WarmPotato said:
1) Huffington Post is hyper liberal so this is partisan as heck to start with. As in, one can safely assume the purpose of writing this is not to inform people

2) "Single Issue Martydom" - this person is obviously making a caricature of "The Church" which is so broad a term its not even funny. Though I'm atheist, I've been to many churches and when politics come up, there's a discussion of a variety of social issues

3) Oh no someone acting moral superior! Its not like both sides do that and the left will call you "Anti Choice" and pretend you want to enslave women, if you want reasonable restrictions on abortion. AS IN, the USA is one of about 3 other countries that allowed 3rd trimester abortion. All over the world everyone agrees 3rd trimester is murder, and yet we still allow it.

4) There's a difference between killing a baby, and attacking terrorists. Like, does anyone remember the recent terror attack in NEW YORK CITY??? The US government exists to protect its own citizens, not to be a beacon of righteous godly justice - and I'm a conservative saying that! Most conservatives agree with me! The American Government exists for America!

5) "Ignoring gun violence" - the massacres that occur in gun free zones? Or the massacres associated with Obama's Fast and Furious Scandal?

6) Yes Jesus did preach to help others, but anyone even vaguely familiar with the bible understands that while that CAN apply to everyone it MUST apply to people within the church first. God's chosen people must stand together and help one another and form community to protect their shared values. If someone is outside the church, they're a lower priority. So again, HuffPo doesn't understand basic christian values.

7) And of course, everyone is anti-life unless the government confiscates people's wealth and funnels it all into planned parenthood. Well guess what, I guess that makes me pro abortion since the government is still funding planned parenthood to this day

Talk about a waste of time that only seems like hard hitting journalism to people who have never stepped foot inside a church, but heard John Stewart make fun of them, so churchs must be bad!

SAD!
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Tldnr
 
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tosca1 said:
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Besides, you don't rely on society - you rely on God!
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You can rely on anyone or anything you choose. Who are you to tell someone else who they rely on?
 
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WarmPotato said:
1) Huffington Post is hyper liberal so this is partisan as heck to start with. As in, one can safely assume the purpose of writing this is not to inform people
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And? So it is liberal? So it is partisan? Doesn't mean it does not inform people as well if not better than other news outlets.

Also, this was an opinion piece rather than a journalistic piece and in those one can opine whatever one wants, which is what this lady did.

WarmPotato said:
2) "Single Issue Martydom" - this person is obviously making a caricature of "The Church" which is so broad a term its not even funny. Though I'm atheist, I've been to many churches and when politics come up, there's a discussion of a variety of social issues
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Well, this lady has experience in church and she has an opinion. You may disagree with that but then that is your right to have an opinion, just as she has her opinion.

WarmPotato said:
3) Oh no someone acting moral superior! Its not like both sides do that and the left will call you "Anti Choice" and pretend you want to enslave women, if you want reasonable restrictions on abortion. AS IN, the USA is one of about 3 other countries that allowed 3rd trimester abortion. All over the world everyone agrees 3rd trimester is murder, and yet we still allow it.
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Well, again so what? And not everyone agrees that 3rd trimester is murder. Or else it would not be allowed (as murder is a crime). You are over simplifying a very complex issue.

WarmPotato said:
4) There's a difference between killing a baby, and attacking terrorists. Like, does anyone remember the recent terror attack in NEW YORK CITY??? The US government exists to protect its own citizens, not to be a beacon of righteous godly justice - and I'm a conservative saying that! Most conservatives agree with me! The American Government exists for America!
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Killing babies is a crime, abortion is not a crime.

WarmPotato said:
5) "Ignoring gun violence" - the massacres that occur in gun free zones? Or the massacres associated with Obama's Fast and Furious Scandal?
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Gunwalking (what later became fast and furious) already happened before Obama took office. And the only ones who are ignoring gun violence are the republicans and gun rights extremists at the NRA. No one can claim that "liberals" ignore gun violence.

WarmPotato said:
6) Yes Jesus did preach to help others, but anyone even vaguely familiar with the bible understands that while that CAN apply to everyone it MUST apply to people within the church first. God's chosen people must stand together and help one another and form community to protect their shared values. If someone is outside the church, they're a lower priority. So again, HuffPo doesn't understand basic christian values.
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Again, this is not written by the Huffington post but by a campus minister who wrote that opinion piece. And as this is not a religious discussion, I am going to refrain from making comments along that line.

WarmPotato said:
7) And of course, everyone is anti-life unless the government confiscates people's wealth and funnels it all into planned parenthood. Well guess what, I guess that makes me pro abortion since the government is still funding planned parenthood to this day

Talk about a waste of time that only seems like hard hitting journalism to people who have never stepped foot inside a church, but heard John Stewart make fun of them, so churchs must be bad!

SAD!
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And it is indeed SAD that you claim things that are not true. The government does not confiscate wealth, it collects taxes and it does not funnel it into abortion services.

This opinion piece was not a journalistic piece and John Stewart is free to comment about religion, but if you really want attacks on religion you should try Bill Maher, he is the one who truly has an issue with religions.
 
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calamity said:
I guess the porn star and ***** grabbing doesn't trump the lip service. :doh
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Everyone sins! Even Clinton and Obama aren't immune to sins! :doh


The Dems agenda of promoting and paving the way for a GOD-LESS society trumps all!


What exceeds this damnable act that aims to remove God from everything?
Does that columnist realize that, I wonder?
 
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calamity said:
Good article exposing the faux cries for life.



That quote pretty much mirrors arguments I've made in here for years.

Moreover:
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The real hypocrisy belongs to the leftists who think they are sinless.....and therefore, they imagine they can point their judgemental fingers at others!
 
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tosca1 said:
That doesn't mean though that you don't have to do anything - you have to be willing to work.
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What about those who cannot work?

What about those too young to work?

What about those who can work but cannot find a job, even though they have tried and tried and tried and tried?
 
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Scrabaholic said:
What about those who cannot work?

What about those too young to work?

What about those who can work but cannot find a job, even though they have tried and tried and tried and tried?
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What about them? Obviously we're not talking about those that have valid reasons for being unable to work!

What about those young ones - do they have parents that are supposed to be responsible for them?
Don't we try to help orphans? Who removed orphanages in our society??

For those unemployed - don't we have welfare?
 
Re: Christian Abortion Hypocrisy

calamity said:
Good article exposing the faux cries for life.



That quote pretty much mirrors arguments I've made in here for years.

Moreover:
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That was pathetic. Not just the usual TDS level of pathetic we've all come to expect, but a whole new level of pathetic. Try to conflate the killing of innocent, unborn children to taking steps to stop oppressive gov'ts from killing innocent is one of the absolutely most pathetic things I've ever heard spewed forth.
 
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