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Men not being involved in the abortion debate

OldFatGuy said:
No one can counter the imperative of any species to maintain existence, to either procreate for maintenance and expansion of the species, or live eternally. The latter, impossible as far as we know. Abortion violates that aspect of species continuance and the associated social contracts, for the good of the society, the good of the species. That one aborted fetus could be the individual who saves mankind from itself? And here is where it gets sticky, which decision, abortion or fulfillment of pregnancy is for the good of the species and/or society? Life is most often precious to those who enjoy it, yet the history of mankind is filled with murder and killing en masse, displaying the cheapness of life by some for others. Is the unwanted child a benefit to the species or society? Neither of us can honestly answer that rhetorical question.
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OldFatGuy said:
I already told you I won't speculate.

Not me. I rarely find hypothecation interesting.
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Seems you like hypotheticals, when you are the one presenting the issues.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Stop drooling.
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You used a word that you obviously don't know its meaning. Everybody knew the point you were making, but hypothecation isn't related to hypothetical. It can't be compared with or to the word interpretation.

Hypothecation is derived from the word hypothec, which in effect is "Roman & civil law : an obligation, right, or security given by contract or by operation of law to a creditor over property of the debtor without transfer of possession or title to the creditor — compare pignus, pledge." Today it's a legal term. It refers "to the granting of a hypothec to a lender by a borrower. In practice, the borrower pledges an asset as collateral for a loan, while retaining ownership of the assets and enjoying the benefits therefrom." A house could be the collateral, or a car.
 
prometeus said:
That does not change the fact that you made a stupid post. At least show some integrity.
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Stuff it. Your lack of understanding is you own problem. Go troll someone else.
 
Removable Mind said:
You used a word that you obviously don't know its meaning. Everybody knew the point you were making, but hypothecation isn't related to hypothetical. It can't be compared with or to the word interpretation.

Hypothecation is derived from the word hypothec, which in effect is "Roman & civil law : an obligation, right, or security given by contract or by operation of law to a creditor over property of the debtor without transfer of possession or title to the creditor — compare pignus, pledge." Today it's a legal term. It refers "to the granting of a hypothec to a lender by a borrower. In practice, the borrower pledges an asset as collateral for a loan, while retaining ownership of the assets and enjoying the benefits therefrom." A house could be the collateral, or a car.
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So what? You knew what I meant. ASsw*pe.
 
Lursa said:
Was still interested. :)Just because we didnt connect (cant say we disagreed cuz I didnt follow your point) didnt mean I didnt find it worth exploring.

Civility really does enable further discussion
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OldFatGuy said:
So what? You knew what I meant. ASsw*pe.
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Well the civility ship sure has sailed.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Stuff it.
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Truth hurts?

Your lack of understanding is you own problem.
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It might be if that was the case, but misuse of words is still your doing and it betrays a lack of education when repeatedly you are unwilling to acknowledge a mistake.

Go troll someone else.
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Go learn the meaning of words before using them.
 
prometeus said:
Truth hurts?

It might be if that was the case, but misuse of words is still your doing and it betrays a lack of education when repeatedly you are unwilling to acknowledge a mistake.

Go learn the meaning of words before using them.
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Shove it where the moon doesn't shine.

.... from the Greek hypotheke, meaning pledge or theorem dependent upon context'

Hypothecation - A method of using boolean statements with variables having assigned values from declared logarithms. (not to be confused with algorithms).

You're not here to discuss politics or the human condition as part of politics. You're here to troll and play one upmanship. You've earned your response from me.

Go troll someone else. And feel free to change your posting name again.
 
minnie616 said:
Name calling and insults speak not to the character of the target, but rather the attacker.
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There's more here than meets the eye. You don't have a clue.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Shove it where the moon doesn't shine.
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It looks like that is from where you pulled out the word the word you had no clue what it means.

... from the Greek hypotheke, meaning pledge or theorem dependent upon context'
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Wow, you learned something. Well it is never too late, do continue.

Go troll someone else.
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Only to the uneducated is pointing out their lacking, trolling.

And feel free to change your posting name again.
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I am quite comfortable with it, though yours could use some clarification along lines of education and civility.
 
prometeus said:
Why? You believe that no one else will point out your mistakes and the lack of integrity to admit them?
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Are you another grammar nazi? Or one of his puppets, or is that vice versa?
 
OldFatGuy said:
Are you another grammar nazi? Or one of his puppets, or is that vice versa?
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IRRELEVANT. The point is, just like most abortion opponents, you fail to exhibit the integrity associated with willingness to admit having made a mistake. For them, the main mistake is publicly opposing abortion, because they publicly blather idiocy in trying to explain why. There is NO Objectively Valid rationale for opposing abortion in this day-and-age! There are only Subjective rationales, none of which is inherently better than a pregnant woman's equally-Subjective rationale for choosing to abort.

For you, at least one mistake involved English usage, and another, unrelated to that, was your personal opposition to abortion. You cannot offer any better rationale, either, yet you made the mistake of thinking that in stating your personal opinion on the topic, no one would challenge its validity in terms of Objectivity. I'll paraphrase/reiterate something I previously stated to you: You have the right to hold an opinion, but at a Debate Site you cannot expect it to go unchallenged! Valid opinions can be supported; others get trashed. Simple!
 
OldFatGuy said:
Are you another grammar nazi?
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Not at all. I simply pointed out the fact that you used a word that you had no clue what it means and instead of acknowledging a mistake you went into all sorts of contortions and denials, thus demonstrating not only lacking knowledge but that of integrity too.
 
FutureIncoming said:
IRRELEVANT. The point is, just like most abortion opponents,
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The thread is entitled "Men not being involved in the abortion debate." Try staying on topic.

Learn hot to read. Learn hot to comprehend what you read. Then read. Your label doesn't fit.

Integrity???? You change your handle thinking you won't be recognized as the fool you are, and you dare to speak of integrity when you have none?? What is wrong with you?

Go back to the Basement where you belong.
 
prometeus said:
Not at all. I simply pointed out the fact that you used a word that you had no clue what it means and instead of acknowledging a mistake you went into all sorts of contortions and denials, thus demonstrating not only lacking knowledge but that of integrity too.
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BS. His tirade had nothing to do with an error. Open your eyes.
 
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