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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

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    Because!
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    If the doctor works for a hospital that allows abortions to be performed yes, he should be fired if he refuses. He is free to go work for a private religious hospital that fits his religious beliefs.
    That is wildly assuming that every doctor that works in a hospital that provides abortions is of that specialty. Or do you want to force a brain surgeon to perform abortions?

    The truth is that you cannot force any doctor to perform any specific surgery, abortion or otherwise. And besides, most women seeking an abortion go to one of the planned parenthood funded baby killing clinics.
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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That is wildly assuming that every doctor that works in a hospital that provides abortions is of that specialty. Or do you want to force a brain surgeon to perform abortions?

    The truth is that you cannot force any doctor to perform any specific surgery, abortion or otherwise. And besides, most women seeking an abortion go to one of the planned parenthood funded baby killing clinics.
    I’ve already answered that question and that scenario but if you are too lazy to find where I answered that is in this thread, I’m not going to bother with you now. Try reading for once and you’ll have the answer. Don’t be a Trump, actually read instead.
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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureIncoming View Post
    LIKE IT OR NOT, the Future is Incoming. And aspects of it will inevitably end the Overall Abortion Debate, in favor of pro-choicers, simply because nothing will ever support their claim that unborn humans qualify as persons deserving right-to-life. And nothing will ever change the Fact that unborn humans are mere-animal entities that act worse than parasites, which fully qualifies abortion, at any point during a pregnancy, as "self-defense".
    Don't you think it is 1000 times more likely that before head transplantation is a reality that we would solve the whole unintended pregnancy issue? That is what my "oh good Lord" is about.

    Don't you think it will be even more improvements in birth control that will shape the debate?

    Bringing head transplantation to the abortion debate is about as pertinent as artificial wombs as a solution to abortion.

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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    I’ve already answered that question and that scenario but if you are too lazy to find where I answered that is in this thread, I’m not going to bother with you now. Try reading for once and you’ll have the answer. Don’t be a Trump, actually read instead.
    Why are you even bringing up Trump? He is not the topic. The topic is whether or not doctors in any setting should be forced to perform abortion or transgender surgery. And I do not give a damn about whatever your answer is or was. I was giving my take on the issue. You are welcome to your own view whatever that may be.

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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Why are you even bringing up Trump? He is not the topic. The topic is whether or not doctors in any setting should be forced to perform abortion or transgender surgery. And I do not give a damn about whatever your answer is or was. I was giving my take on the issue. You are welcome to your own view whatever that may be.

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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Why are you even bringing up Trump? He is not the topic. The topic is whether or not doctors in any setting should be forced to perform abortion or transgender surgery. And I do not give a damn about whatever your answer is or was. I was giving my take on the issue. You are welcome to your own view whatever that may be.

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    You specifically quoted me and asked me a question which I had already answered previously.

    I brought up trump because trump is too lazy to read anything. Just like what you’re doing now. Get it now or should I get crayons out for you to understand like trump needs.
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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Don't you think it is 1000 times more likely that before head transplantation is a reality that we would solve the whole unintended pregnancy issue?
    ACTUALLY, NO. There will always be the human error of carelessness, so long as there are humans doing things. Here's a pretty famous example.

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    That is what my "oh good Lord" is about.
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    Don't you think it will be even more improvements in birth control that will shape the debate?
    I CERTAINLY WANT TO THINK SO, and have even mentioned a possibility or two. For example, consider the topology of a modern vasectomy: It basically diverts sperm output from the testicles into the main body cavity, instead of letting sperm reach the prostate. Well, imagine installing a Y-shaped valve in the vas deferens. When the valve is set one way, it diverts sperm into the main body cavity --and when the valve is set the other way, it lets sperm reach the prostate. It should work as very effective reversible sterilization for men (after setting the valve to "divert" a man needs to wait a few days to clear out sperm already in the prostate, but setting the valve to "connect" will probably let fertility be restored in a few hours). The only valves I've ever heard about before are simple on/off valves, and (according to what I recall) they tended to cause the vas to burst from pressure of sperm trying to get through. Not good!

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    Bringing head transplantation to the abortion debate is about as pertinent as artificial wombs as a solution to abortion.
    ULTIMATELY, artificial wombs will be an alternative to pregnancy. minnie616 has pointed out multiple times the difficulty of moving an unborn human from a live womb to an artificial womb --better all around if it simply starts in the artificial womb. Here's some recent news which could give lots of women a reason to get their tubes tied. They can get parts of their ovaries saved for later egg-production, in-vitro fertilizations, and wanted pregnancies (or, eventually, implantation in artificial wombs).
    Stupidly Prejudiced Master Race Idiocy was supposedly stomped into irrelevance by WW2; insisting "human=person" fails to Be Prepared for any future with non-human persons in it. So: Define "person" to accurately distinguish one, regardless of how exists, from a mere animal, universally. Why should Stupid Prejudice let our unborn qualify?

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    Re: Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureIncoming View Post
    ACTUALLY, NO. There will always be the human error of carelessness, so long as there are humans doing things. Here's a pretty famous example.


    I'M NOT IMPRESSED.


    I CERTAINLY WANT TO THINK SO, and have even mentioned a possibility or two. For example, consider the topology of a modern vasectomy: It basically diverts sperm output from the testicles into the main body cavity, instead of letting sperm reach the prostate. Well, imagine installing a Y-shaped valve in the vas deferens. When the valve is set one way, it diverts sperm into the main body cavity --and when the valve is set the other way, it lets sperm reach the prostate. It should work as very effective reversible sterilization for men (after setting the valve to "divert" a man needs to wait a few days to clear out sperm already in the prostate, but setting the valve to "connect" will probably let fertility be restored in a few hours). The only valves I've ever heard about before are simple on/off valves, and (according to what I recall) they tended to cause the vas to burst from pressure of sperm trying to get through. Not good!


    ULTIMATELY, artificial wombs will be an alternative to pregnancy. minnie616 has pointed out multiple times the difficulty of moving an unborn human from a live womb to an artificial womb --better all around if it simply starts in the artificial womb. Here's some recent news which could give lots of women a reason to get their tubes tied. They can get parts of their ovaries saved for later egg-production, in-vitro fertilizations, and wanted pregnancies (or, eventually, implantation in artificial wombs).
    Maybe they should work on transplanting unwanted fetuses to the wombs of pro-life men. Nothing would do more to preserve abortion rights into perpetuity.

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