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Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?

Should a doctor be forced to perform an abortion or transgender surgery?


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The questions are stupid. Doctors need to be trained in those procedures to do them. I have yet to hear of a movement to force doctors to be trained in those surgeries and be forced to do them. As for a referral for an abortion, GPs should not be able to refuse to refer - and here, they cannot (refuse). Giving a referral is not interfering with one's right to worship his/her deity.

I was thinking the same, I simply wouldn't learn how to do those surgeries. I'm pretty sure if you tell the patient you have never been trained on how to do that particular surgery they are going to find someone else.
 
Actually there has been a movement to "force" doctors to be trained in abortion services.

That is disturbing, and might reduce the number of people who want to go into obstetrics.
 
I don't want someone to be forced to do something that will go against his/her faith.
Horse crap. I you would rather die than someone do his or her duty? How about your house burning down because the fire chief has a different belief? Thinking like that does not belong in civilized society.
 
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The doctor shouldn’t be threatened by this stupidity group of ACLU. People forget about that people have a right to opt out


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The usual primitive uneducated drivel from you. Should a doctor be forced to save your life if his religion does not allow him to help people like you?

A doctor is required to save lives, not destroy or alter them.

Nothing in religion would make a black doctor not save the life of say a nazi. Where does it say that in the Bible or Koran?

However, abortion is a different subject matter.
 
I don't want someone to be forced to do something that will go against his/her faith.

Ok ....food for thought ....what if a doctor refused to give blood to patient whose life depended on it because the doctor was a Jehovis Witness?
 
From the ACLU:



https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty

The fundamental right to religious liberty cannot be violated. Contraception, abortions referrals are things against the Christian teaching and forcing doctors to go against their faith and religion would be a clear violation of religious liberty.

In other words, "Don't make the baker make a wedding cake for the queers"....:roll: Yeah, same old church - different pew, argument.
 
Ok ....food for thought ....what if a doctor refused to give blood to patient whose life depended on it because the doctor was a Jehovis Witness?

The Hippocratic Oath
 
The Hippocratic Oath

And that means what? In Ireland, because of the right to life law for the yet to be born, then that would be applicable. Not in the US. We don't live under universal laws all around the globe.
 
And that means what? In Ireland, because of the right to life law for the yet to be born, then that would be applicable. Not in the US. We don't live under universal laws all around the globe.

We are a Judeo-Christian country with Judeo-Christian principles.

Do you know the Constitution is based on the framers praying to god on their knees to God? The Constitution is framed after biblical principles.
 
We are a Judeo-Christian country with Judeo-Christian principles.

Do you know the Constitution is based on the framers praying to god on their knees to God? The Constitution is framed after biblical principles.

Sorry, that's not true. I'll actually give you an opportunity to prove that by sources that come from the Framers themselves.

I'll wait...
 
That says they have the right to opt out for personal or religious reasons.

Yep.. but that forces the doctors hands per se during their schooling. Much less likely to get doctors unwilling to do an abortion in positions where they may have to perform an abortion.
 
Rule #1 for health care

Never have a surgeon perform surgery on you if the surgeon is against doing the surgery being performed.

There is a good chance that the particular surgery being performed is not the surgeon's forte, not in his/her ballywick, not their specialty, so to speak.
 
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Yep.. but that forces the doctors hands per se during their schooling. Much less likely to get doctors unwilling to do an abortion in positions where they may have to perform an abortion.

In Canada, where there is zero legal restrictions on abortion. No doctor is legally obligated to do an abortion. However, I suspect than that physicians who work at ER's would most likely do an abortion under an "emergency situation", regardless of their religion. Their in the wrong business if they avoid everything that conflicts with their religious tenets. You know, kind of like bakeries that don't want to make wedding cake for gay marriages...but do. Business is business.

And it turns out that most doctors in Canada won't do latter stage abortions (usually over 20 weeks) even though they legally can. Just like in the US, over 90% of abortions are performed at 12 weeks and under.
 
Rule #1 for health care

Never have a surgeon perform surgery on you if the surgeon is against doing the surgery being performed.

There is a good chance that the particular surgery being performed is not the surgeon's forte, not in his/her ballywick, not their specialty, so to speak.

You mean don't go to an anti-circumcision doctor who might accidently do a De-nutomy? :mrgreen:
 
We are a Judeo-Christian country with Judeo-Christian principles.

Do you know the Constitution is based on the framers praying to god on their knees to God? The Constitution is framed after biblical principles.

False:


Quote from one of our founding fathers:

”The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
—John Adams

Actually our Constitution states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

From the following article:

Founding Fathers: We Are Not a Christian Nation

Jefferson promoted tolerance above all and said earlier that his statute for religious freedom in Virginia was “meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammeden, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.” He specifically wished to avoid the dominance of a single religion.

Let us be perfectly clear: We are not now, nor have we ever been, a Christian nation. Our founding fathers explicitly and clearly excluded any reference to “God” or “the Almighty” or any euphemism for a higher power in the Constitution. Not one time is the word “god” mentioned in our founding document. Not one time.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/founding-fathers-we-are-n_b_6761840.html
 
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From the ACLU:



https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty

The fundamental right to religious liberty cannot be violated. Contraception, abortions referrals are things against the Christian teaching and forcing doctors to go against their faith and religion would be a clear violation of religious liberty.
I say a doctor should not be compelled to do any procedure they are not comfortable with, whether it be by skill, or morality.

That is however, a decision they must make prior to employment. If they are working for an employer, rather than their own practice, they can't be employed by a hospital, and then use it as an excuse not to do a procedure they are qualified to do.
 
If the doctor works for a hospital that allows abortions to be performed yes, he should be fired if he refuses. He is free to go work for a private religious hospital that fits his religious beliefs.

Though I am a total pro life supporter, I agree that if a doctor chooses to work for such a place, that is part of their duty.
 
Are you talking about a civil agreement between a physician and his employer or passing a law that states that a physician can't refuse?

That is the 64 million dollar question.
 
The usual primitive uneducated drivel from you. Should a doctor be forced to save your life if his religion does not allow him to help people like you?

Like it or not, religious tests do have their place.
 
The doctor shouldn’t be threatened by this stupidity group of ACLU. People forget about that people have a right to opt out


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The ACLU has done a great deal of good, but they have also scarred this nation.
 
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