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Pro life Republican Congressman urged mistress to get an abortion

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This happened over a month ago but I figure that I would post it here to show that some pro lifers even those in power positions can be hypocrites and go against there positions.

Pro-life Republican congressman urged mistress to get an abortion - NY Daily News

Truly fascinating indeed. Discuss.

Edit: Some other sources state the mistress didn't get pregnant but regardless, we still got people like this congressman go against there position.
 
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This isn't a rare story. It's easy to sit in judgement of another, until your own butt is on the line -- then -- you sing a different tune.

I've heard about this story, and, from hearing similar stories in the past, I'd say it's not really all that uncommon.
 
HowardBThiname said:
This isn't a rare story. It's easy to sit in judgement of another, until your own butt is on the line -- then -- you sing a different tune.

I've heard about this story, and, from hearing similar stories in the past, I'd say it's not really all that uncommon.
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Yep- hypocrites that condemn others with one hand, while doing the same on the other.
 
GEIxBattleRifle said:
This happened over a month ago but I figure that I would post it here to show that some pro lifers even those in power positions can be hypocrites and go against there positions.

Pro-life Republican congressman urged mistress to get an abortion - NY Daily News

Truly fascinating indeed. Discuss.

Edit: Some other sources state the mistress didn't get pregnant but regardless, we still got people like this congressman go against there position.
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"Do as I say, not as I do", is often not a sign of hypocrisy. It is wisdom.
 
HowardBThiname said:
This isn't a rare story. It's easy to sit in judgement of another, until your own butt is on the line -- then -- you sing a different tune.

I've heard about this story, and, from hearing similar stories in the past, I'd say it's not really all that uncommon.
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....nor much of a political argument other than possibly against the person.
 
GEIxBattleRifle said:
This happened over a month ago but I figure that I would post it here to show that some pro lifers even those in power positions can be hypocrites and go against there positions.

Pro-life Republican congressman urged mistress to get an abortion - NY Daily News

Truly fascinating indeed. Discuss.

Edit: Some other sources state the mistress didn't get pregnant but regardless, we still got people like this congressman go against there position.
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Nothing new or uncommon.
 
GEIxBattleRifle said:
This happened over a month ago but I figure that I would post it here to show that some pro lifers even those in power positions can be hypocrites and go against there positions.

Pro-life Republican congressman urged mistress to get an abortion - NY Daily News

Truly fascinating indeed. Discuss.

Edit: Some other sources state the mistress didn't get pregnant but regardless, we still got people like this congressman go against there position.
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This doesn't surprise me at all. There are a lot of anti choicers who have an abortion/encourage their partner to abort when faced with an unwanted pregnancy.

Years ago, a friend got pregnant by a married minister. He was the head of the local "Right to Life" chapter. He pushed her to abort illegally. She almost died from it (the abortion).


An interesting page:
The only moral abortion is my abortion
 
joG said:
"Do as I say, not as I do", is often not a sign of hypocrisy. It is wisdom.
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We are speaking to abortion. Does that hold true for you with abortion as well??
 
joG said:
"Do as I say, not as I do", is often not a sign of hypocrisy. It is wisdom.
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If you can't set a good example by following your own recommendations to others, why should anyone else follow those recommendations? In other words, if you don't follow your own recommendations, you basically show others that you really don't think your own recommendations have any actual validity. There is no aspect of "wisdom" in that! (If you can't have "the courage of one's convictions", why should anyone else have courage for your claimed convictions?)
 
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HowardBThiname said:
This isn't a rare story. It's easy to sit in judgement of another, until your own butt is on the line -- then -- you sing a different tune.

I've heard about this story, and, from hearing similar stories in the past, I'd say it's not really all that uncommon.
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Yup. Abortion clinics see picketers in their chairs for elective abortions routinely. "The only moral abortion is my abortion." Or in this case, "A woman's choice is only valid if it's actually MY choice."

As if anyone needed any more evidence that this has always been about controlling women, not about "life."
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Yup. Abortion clinics see picketers in their chairs for elective abortions routinely. "The only moral abortion is my abortion." Or in this case, "A woman's choice is only valid if it's actually MY choice."

As if anyone needed any more evidence that this has always been about controlling women, not about "life."
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Hiya. I agree with you but if you ever spend any time here on this sub-forum (and I dont really recommend that you do), you'd find that a large number of pro-life people come at it from a very emotional level, being sucked in by the horrible pictures on picket signs, most probably decades old...of dismembered fetuses.

A very large number seem to believe that this is what happens in most abortions and that the unborn feel pain during the procedure. The ignorance is outstanding and IMO, they avoid learning otherwise because it fuels their self-righteous outrage.

--They appear to be immune to the fact that about 97% of all abortions take place when a pea-sized embryo/early fetus is flushed painlessly from the womb (no dismemberment or pain involved)

--They appear to be immune to the fact that there's no need for pain in the much less common medically necessary later-term abortions where the unborn can be given anesthetic and not feel pain, just like in any medical procedure. (Evidence: see those that swallow whole the need for legislation based on ending abortions after 20 weeks based on pain,)


They use this ignorance to deny reality and to stoke their outrage and commitment to stopping abortion.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
As if anyone needed any more evidence that this has always been about controlling women, not about "life."
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Totally agree. If this were truly the case, they'd be out protesting finding homes for the more than 100,000 kids available for adoption in the US instead of insisting that we create more unplanned, unwanted, unaffordable kids. Adoption is their 'go-to' for what women should do if they cant take care of a child or afford to do so. So they would see more kids born into this limbo.

It's about 'life' for pro-choicers too: we value quality of life over quantity.
 
Lursa said:
Hiya. I agree with you but if you ever spend any time here on this sub-forum (and I dont really recommend that you do), you'd find that a large number of pro-life people come at it from a very emotional level, being sucked in by the horrible pictures on picket signs, most probably decades old...of dismembered fetuses.

A very large number seem to believe that this is what happens in most abortions and that the unborn feel pain during the procedure. The ignorance is outstanding and IMO, they avoid learning otherwise because it fuels their self-righteous outrage.

--They appear to be immune to the fact that about 97% of all abortions take place when a pea-sized embryo/early fetus is flushed painlessly from the womb (no dismemberment or pain involved)

--They appear to be immune to the fact that there's no need for pain in the much less common medically necessary later-term abortions where the unborn can be given anesthetic and not feel pain, just like in any medical procedure. (Evidence: see those that swallow whole the need for legislation based on ending abortions after 20 weeks based on pain,)


They use this ignorance to deny reality and to stoke their outrage and commitment to stopping abortion.
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Heh, I'm not sure if my change of avatar a couple months ago made your memory skip or something, but it's me, The Pro-Choice Warrior. ;)
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Yup. Abortion clinics see picketers in their chairs for elective abortions routinely. "The only moral abortion is my abortion." Or in this case, "A woman's choice is only valid if it's actually MY choice."

As if anyone needed any more evidence that this has always been about controlling women, not about "life."
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I think it's more about claiming the moral high ground. It's about "me being better than you".
 
lurchadams said:
I think it's more about claiming the moral high ground. It's about "me being better than you".
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I find it bizarre that they consider denying women bodily autonomy is a moral high ground, but perhaps somewhat. The thing is, it just doesn't make sense in the conext of most of their other commonly held positions, which often include things like very strong self-defense rights, and advocating for the right of a man to get a "paper abortion" to avoid responsibility for the child they believe the woman should be forced to have.

Underneath it all, it always comes back to controlling women specifically.
 
The GOP does not endorse abortion, unless its for a mistress.:lamo
 
lurchadams said:
I think it's more about claiming the moral high ground. It's about "me being better than you".
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Since morals are provably arbitrary, no thing claimed to be moral ranks higher than any other thing claimed to be moral. Especially when the claim is actually a lie. Like the claim that abortion is immoral. HAH! Opposing abortion, in this era of overpopulation, is immoral! (Entirely because so many of the world's problems are direct consequences of overpopulation, and insisting more mouths-to-feed must get born is like wanting to make all those problems worse.)
 
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