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Our Own Auschwiz[W:602]

Counting the eggs before they hatch?

Elvira said:
So you place no value on human life whatsoever...I get that...
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Nah, you missed the point. Transferring a fetus from a pregnant woman who doesn't want to carry to term & transplanting the fetus to someone or something where it can grow & develop to term is an attempt to resolve all the competing claims for priority involved in an abortion decision. I think the pregnant woman & her doctor have priority, but the biotechnology is coming along nicely, there's no reason to merely throw away a fetus if it can be avoided.

I would think you'd agree with that assessment; if not, my bad, I misread your intentions here, my apologies. @ the rate the technology is developing, I think in another 20 or so years we'll be able to save all the fetuses that would otherwise be disposed of in early term abortions (assuming that the pregnant woman agrees to allow the fetus to go to term) - which are the most common, BTW.

Can you explain why you evidently oppose medical technology making the death of the aborted fetus unnecessary? (& we probably need to invent a new term for the fetus so transferred.)
 
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worksforpigs said:
Whatever it takes for you to avoid consequences.
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For a woman to take responsibility for her actions, choose abortion (rather than take taxpayer $ to help support a kid or add another to the thousands still waiting for adoption), and then continue to be a contributing member of society is certainly worth any consequences she'd avoid that might interfere with that contribution. At least it's worth it to society.

I just hope the individual women feel the same way, each one is different. Life is full of hard decisions. That doesnt mean they are wrong.
 
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worksforpigs said:
I'm a woman. It's not about "control" but rather about a basic sense of ethics that goes beyond being driven by one's genitalia.

Frankly, as a man it's perfectly understandable why you want convenience abortions, but at least be honest about it rather than pretending to be a feminist. Male self-interest wrapped in advocacy for women is really old.
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I don't want an abortion.
 
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CriticalThought said:
I think you would only feel guilt if you saw it as a baby.
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Empathy is always greater for a dying cow than a steak on the barbecue.
 
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zyzygy said:
So change the laws and drive abortion underground.
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I truly believe if laws prohibit abortion....a network would develop to make available the abortion pills. Abortions might actually become more accessible for some.

With a widespread need for such pills, what pusher would not like to get in on that action?
 
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worksforpigs said:
I have no problem with driving convenience abortions underground.
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Of course you dont. We are familiar with those that believe that if women die or are harmed during a back alley abortion, "they deserve it."

Yeah...definitely not the moral High Ground.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
So, you don't care about the zef, you just want women to abort unsafely......
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If they choose to do something dumb because they lack the decency to give birth and have the child adopted, the consequences are their own doing.
 
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worksforpigs said:
If they choose to do something dumb because they lack the decency to give birth and have the child adopted, the consequences are their own doing.
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Thankfully in this country the only consequences are safe and legal abortions
 
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worksforpigs said:
If they choose to do something dumb because they lack the decency to give birth and have the child adopted, the consequences are their own doing.
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Have you ever given birth?
 
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worksforpigs said:
If they choose to do something dumb because they lack the decency to give birth and have the child adopted, the consequences are their own doing.
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Abortion really seems to annoy you. It doesn't bother me.
 
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worksforpigs said:
If they choose to do something dumb because they lack the decency to give birth and have the child adopted, the consequences are their own doing.
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Not if there can be...and is...safer, legal abortion. You are suggesting they shouldnt have that option and since YOU would choose to take that safer option from them, it's not a consequence they choose...it's one imposed on them.
 
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Lursa said:
Not if there can be...and is...safer, legal abortion. You are suggesting they shouldnt have that option and since YOU would choose to take that safer option from them, it's not a consequence they choose...it's one imposed on them.
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Luckily people like him are in no position to interfere with women's rights.
 
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worksforpigs said:
If they choose to do something dumb because they lack the decency to give birth and have the child adopted, the consequences are their own doing.
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Decency and giving birth are related how?

Why is it that you just can’t understand that adoption isn’t even close to the remedy for unwanted pregnancies? People who do adopt custom order what they want. And most women don’t want an offspring going people they don’t have a clue about who they are.

In case you haven’t noticed, humanity is far from being on the extinction list. Women can reproduce multiple times. “Most pregnancies are brought to full term.”

Why is the yet to be born more value to you than the born?
 
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In case y'all haven't noticed...Worksforpigs is a woman...pay attention...:roll:
 
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