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An example of what happens when you make abortions hard to get.

OK never mind. You can cling to your premise, even tho I provided examples why it's not correct.

You haven't done anything of the sort, so don't go patting yourself on the back just yet.

(And no, renaming it twice doesnt 'summarize' it.)

Okay, in what respect have I not summarized it? Either I'm not conveying my thoughts clearly or you're not understanding correctly, and either it's a communication barrier.
 
You haven't done anything of the sort, so don't go patting yourself on the back just yet.



Okay, in what respect have I not summarized it? Either I'm not conveying my thoughts clearly or you're not understanding correctly, and either it's a communication barrier.

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God definitely exists at the psychological level, but ought not to be considered below that. I make this assertion based on fact, not faith.

^^^^^

It doesnt really matter anymore tho.
 
^^^^^

It doesnt really matter anymore tho.

You can shut up any time, but I'm still gonna reply to you.

How is my bolded claim incorrect?
 
You can shut up any time, but I'm still gonna reply to you.

How is my bolded claim incorrect?

I have no idea. I dont know what it is. I asked to you provide at least a summary of it multiple times. And you did not. I am not watching a list of videos.

If you dont understand it well enough to explain it in your own words, I'm certainly not going to validate it.
 
I have no idea. I dont know what it is. I asked to you provide at least a summary of it multiple times.

"Summary" is the wrong word, since that implies making it shorter. What you're asking for is rephrasing or clarification. Choose the correct word next time to avoid confusion.

Mythology is applied psychology. The gods, demons, heroes, etc. that we see in myths are all reflections of our psyche. The human brain is incredibly complex and absorbs more information than we consciously know - "hidden truths", if you will. To access these hidden truths and better understand our world, we use mythology as an interface to communicate with the subconscious. Myths are not true in the sense that history is true, but they're "meta-true" in that they address what's really going on underneath all the noise.

Take dragons, for example. A dragon combines the body of a serpent, the wings and talons of a bird of prey, and the fangs of a big cat or crocodile. It's an abstraction of the concept of "predator", taking all the big and scary parts and combining them into one archetype. Dragons often capture maidens and guard hordes of gold, which must both be recovered by a hero. The underlying truth is that young men who fight off big predators are irresistible to young women and tend to be rewarded with wealth and status (something that young men nowadays have forgotten). If you've ever read Joseph Campbell and his writings on the "hero's journey", you'll know that the Road of Trials always comes before the Meeting with the Goddess and often involves a Dragon-Battle. This is because the Goddess is the ultimate woman, and to attain the ultimate woman you must slay the ultimate predator - i.e. the Dragon. Life is full of dragons and goddesses, so in this sense, both are very real, though only at the psychological level. I'm not for a moment suggesting that biologists fit dragons into the evolutionary tree.

To apply this to God, consider the story of Job in the Bible. Job is a righteous man with a huge family and lots of wealth. Satan makes a bet with God: if he destroys Job's wealth, family, and health, then Job will turn on God and curse him. God accepts the bet and lets Satan ruin Job's life. Job is baffled by his punishment, having committed no sins, though his friends try to convince him that he must have done something to incur God's wrath and ought to repent. His friends are clinging to the "just-world hypothesis", which is the notion that doing good begets good and doing evil begets evil. Job maintains his innocence and begs God to tell him what sin he committed to justify his punishment. God then appears out of a whirlwind and chastises Job for thinking he's entitled to question the Almighty, as if they were equals; he also chastises Job's friends for giving him bad advice and assuming that Job is guilty. Job then humbles himself before God, so God heals him and gives him twice as much stuff as he had before.

The underlying truth in Job is that life isn't fair or just, the universe (God) doesn't owe us a damn thing, and sometimes bad stuff happens to good people for no other reason than that their lives are too perfect (bet with Satan). God is the personification of all the forces beyond our personal control, while Satan is the one who reminds us not to be complacent. Again, these entities are very real at the psychological level. That doesn't mean a literal deity created the physical universe, only that God is a useful component of our interface with the world.
 
"Summary" is the wrong word, since that implies making it shorter. What you're asking for is rephrasing or clarification. Choose the correct word next time to avoid confusion.

Mythology is applied psychology. The gods, demons, heroes, etc. that we see in myths are all reflections of our psyche. The human brain is incredibly complex and absorbs more information than we consciously know - "hidden truths", if you will. To access these hidden truths and better understand our world, we use mythology as an interface to communicate with the subconscious. Myths are not true in the sense that history is true, but they're "meta-true" in that they address what's really going on underneath all the noise.

Take dragons, for example. A dragon combines the body of a serpent, the wings and talons of a bird of prey, and the fangs of a big cat or crocodile. It's an abstraction of the concept of "predator", taking all the big and scary parts and combining them into one archetype. Dragons often capture maidens and guard hordes of gold, which must both be recovered by a hero. The underlying truth is that young men who fight off big predators are irresistible to young women and tend to be rewarded with wealth and status (something that young men nowadays have forgotten). If you've ever read Joseph Campbell and his writings on the "hero's journey", you'll know that the Road of Trials always comes before the Meeting with the Goddess and often involves a Dragon-Battle. This is because the Goddess is the ultimate woman, and to attain the ultimate woman you must slay the ultimate predator - i.e. the Dragon. Life is full of dragons and goddesses, so in this sense, both are very real, though only at the psychological level. I'm not for a moment suggesting that biologists fit dragons into the evolutionary tree.

To apply this to God, consider the story of Job in the Bible. Job is a righteous man with a huge family and lots of wealth. Satan makes a bet with God: if he destroys Job's wealth, family, and health, then Job will turn on God and curse him. God accepts the bet and lets Satan ruin Job's life. Job is baffled by his punishment, having committed no sins, though his friends try to convince him that he must have done something to incur God's wrath and ought to repent. His friends are clinging to the "just-world hypothesis", which is the notion that doing good begets good and doing evil begets evil. Job maintains his innocence and begs God to tell him what sin he committed to justify his punishment. God then appears out of a whirlwind and chastises Job for thinking he's entitled to question the Almighty, as if they were equals; he also chastises Job's friends for giving him bad advice and assuming that Job is guilty. Job then humbles himself before God, so God heals him and gives him twice as much stuff as he had before.

The underlying truth in Job is that life isn't fair or just, the universe (God) doesn't owe us a damn thing, and sometimes bad stuff happens to good people for no other reason than that their lives are too perfect (bet with Satan). God is the personification of all the forces beyond our personal control, while Satan is the one who reminds us not to be complacent. Again, these entities are very real at the psychological level. That doesn't mean a literal deity created the physical universe, only that God is a useful component of our interface with the world.

No, summary is the correct word. I asked for an explanation and you provided a LIST of videos. I asked you to summarize their content since I wasnt going to watch them.

Then again, I asked you to summarize your claim. If what your wrote is *everything* about the subject, then I am mistaken but I seriously doubt that.

Your claim was that God (or a deity) *existed* at the psychological level. I take exception with "exists" since by no means does it prove God exists, however perhaps that is a matter of semantics.
 
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She could have given up adoption for them
 
This is not an abortion issue.

I have to wonder if she had existing mental health issues.

We agree for once.

Imagine what would have happened if a man had done it. It wouldn't have been an abortion issue.
 
We agree for once.

Imagine what would have happened if a man had done it. It wouldn't have been an abortion issue.

It still is not an abortion issue.

Whether a man or woman did it.
 
It still is not an abortion issue.

Whether a man or woman did it.

Now imagine if you could just see forced parentage the same way... what a marvelous idea.
 
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