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The Right To Life

Sounds good to me...life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...something I'd imagine rings true with the "pro-life" side of the debate...fair enough?

And then there's the "Pro-choice" side of the debate...which I'm surprised we haven't seen some tweets referring to them as the "Anti-life" movement

Note to self...call Putin

Anyway...here's where I have a problem...first off in the interest of full disclosure I'm in the latter group no matter what catchy title it bears...it's a principle...more than a name.

Obviously, a name can be chosen to deceive as well...or so it appears to me.

Who are the ones that scream the loudest regarding illegals? Is it not more common among the "Pro-life" folks?

How about those who complain most about entitlements i.e. welfare? Is it not more common among the "Pro-life" folks?

Abortions should be a matter of choice and any pro-lifer who disagrees...anyone who chooses to take authority over another...shouldn't they be generous in helping to bear the costs that result due to their enforced control?

Seems a way bit hypocritical to me.

Oh yeah, I'm pro-life but screw the illegals.

I was watching the Mexicans dig and dig and dig...how organized...relatively...how much they really seemed to care about the human life they were trying to save...pretty impressive...Mexicans do know how to do neck down labor...rather have them in some jobs on a large jobsite for sure...gotta have more than one though so they can harmonize when they sing as they work.

Do you think Americans could work as hard to save lives if it were say, in Houston?

Forget Harvey...it's an earthquake instead (hypothetically)...would you pro-lifers get in there and dig your asses off just as good as a Mexican...granted, most of you probably couldn't keep up but let's say...would you dig with as much heart?

Would you be joyous when you got in there and saved those precious lives?

Would you be joyous for the Mexican's had they had better success in their search from their catastrophe in Mexico?

Is there anyone among you...on either side of the equation, but...I'm basically ask the pro-life folks

I'd submit that the majority would say something along the lines of, "You're damn right, I would."
...am I close?

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Not even...apples and oranges...
 
AYSM said:
"Seems a way bit hypocritical to me."
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Pro.lifers need to travel the world saving people or else they are hypocrites?
 
AYSM said:
Huh? How would going to Houston equate to "travel the world"...pick a city near you and apply the same hypothetical if that makes it easier for you.
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What does the Mexican earthquake have to do with anything then?

And I live half way around the world from Houston.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you know what this thread is about? I don't.
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Not really...lol...what do Mexicans and pro-lifers have in common? Nothing that I know of...:confused:
 
Bodhisattva said:
What does the Mexican earthquake have to do with anything then?

And I live half way around the world from Houston.
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Mexicans are human beings who were risking their lives to save others...would not a pro-lifer support such an action if it were on US soil?

Are you an American?
 
AYSM said:
Mexicans are human beings who were risking their lives to save others...would not a pro-lifer support such an action if it were on US soil?

Are you an American?
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Do you think there are not first responders and citizens that are pro.life who risked their lives to save others?

Are you saying Mexicans are better than pro.lifers?

What does the location have to do with anything?

Yes. I am an American.
 
AYSM said:
That's a good question that I wonder about...seems they work hard to preserve life...would pro-lifers do the same?
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Well I have to ask...what are you doing to help?
 
AYSM said:
That's a good question that I wonder about...seems they work hard to preserve life...would pro-lifers do the same?
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Mexicans are 100% pro.life?

Dude... your thread makes no ****ing sense.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you think there are not first responders and citizens that are pro.life who risked their lives to save others?

Are you saying Mexicans are better than pro.lifers?

What does the location have to do with anything?

Yes. I am an American.
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Of course there are pro-life first responders.

I'm not saying Mexicans are better...just trying to use them as an example and then apply it to the US...I wasn't suggesting we import them because they might be better at it...granted many recovery efforts are built on the backs of illegals but we aren't even close to addressing that...I don't understand why this is so complicated but so many don't seem to separate themselves from their knee-jerk reactions rather than view the discussion with an open mind.

Obviously, you wouldn't travel to Houston so...would you support such an American relief effort from a distance?
 
AYSM said:
Of course there are pro-life first responders.

I'm not saying Mexicans are better...just trying to use them as an example and then apply it to the US...I wasn't suggesting we import them because they might be better at it...granted many recovery efforts are built on the backs of illegals but we aren't even close to addressing that...

Obviously, you wouldn't travel to Houston so...would you support such an American relief effort from a distance?
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We sent fire brigades to CA to combat forest fires and save people a few times when I was in the Brigade.

.I don't understand why this is so complicated but so many don't seem to separate themselves from their knee-jerk reactions rather than view the discussion with an open mind
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That is the point... discuss what with an open mind. Your OP doesnt make any sense.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Mexicans are 100% pro.life?

Dude... your thread makes no ****ing sense.
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I'd submit ignorance in asking such a question with so many examples to suggest otherwise, i.e. drug cartels...la familia is all the life that matters to them

Perhaps the thread will make sense when someone comes along who makes an attempt to make sense of it...so far, the responses appear clueless but I'll hold out some faith.
 
Bodhisattva said:
About what? Abortion? Mexicans? Hypocrites? Earthquakes?
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How about I simplify the debate for the moment...screw the Mexicans and there never was an earthquake...the jury will disregard any remarks regarding natural disasters or aliens of any sort.

So how about we just look at Abortion first and go back, start again...are you pro-life as it pertains to the Abortion issue?
 
AYSM said:
Did you do it because you valued the life of those people or because you were getting paid?
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It is a volunteer fire brigade...

Perhaps the thread will make sense when someone comes along who makes an attempt to make sense of it...
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Is asking question not an attempt to make sense of it where you come from?

.so far, the responses appear clueless but I'll hold out some faith.
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Possibly the issue is not the two who cant make sense of a nonsensical topic.
 
AYSM said:
How about I simplify the debate for the moment...screw the Mexicans and there never was an earthquake...the jury will disregard any remarks regarding natural disasters or aliens of any sort.

So how about we just look at Abortion first and go back, start again...are you pro-life as it pertains to the Abortion issue?
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No.

When were aliens introduced to the discussion?

Aliens. Earthquakes. Mexicans. World travel.

I thought we were talking about abortion?
 
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