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Planned Parenthood money issues..... [W:77]

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JayDubya said:
Yes, your "fail" is absolutely "epic" for continuously misrepresenting the words of others while you "fail" to understand a very basic and relevant financial concept which fully explains why any funding at all is objectionable.

This is deliberate on your part, though.
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Who cares? Even you admit it is completely legal. LOL
 
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Bucky said:
I am ashamed to be part of this monstrosity.

When I worked at PP, I often got reimbursed for 5-star hotels and expensive meals on PP dime. I am quite embarrassed. I would eat mushroom Risotto, Filet mignon, wine, etc... I was addicted to these 5-star restaurants like SW Steakhouse or sleeping in Trump Hotel and getting it all reimbursed through PP.

I knew what I was doing was wrong as I was essentially spending government money on my expensive appetite. I take full blame as should PP. An extremely wasteful organization for allowing me to do that.
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On one hand I get that people in management expense out meals and travel. Happens across the board in large organizations.

On the other hand, I think many of us doubt your connection to PP. How could you claim to know very specific things and yet say that MOST Planned Parenthood's only do pregnancy tests and abortions.

But again....you use expensing out meals and travel as being specifically against PP. It is across many organization.
 
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year2late said:
Ok, So you are using a very broad generality as it relates to a very specific thing.

Epic fail.
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Exactly.
Since abortions are covered the woman or her insurance the taxpayer money is not being used for abortions.
When there is not even enough money to cover the Title X programs that PP supports there is not extra money to interchange.

From this Washington Post article:

From the Washington post:


[MYTH]

1. Planned Parenthood’s federal funding frees up other money to pay for abortions.

Opponents of Planned Parenthood insist that giving the organization federal dollars allows it to spend other money in its budget to provide abortions.
That is not possible — there is no other money.

Title X is a federal grant program that exists solely to help low-income and uninsured people access contraceptives and sexual health care; 5.2 million people use the program annually. But Congress has never appropriated enough money to take care of the estimated 17 million Americans who need publicly funded family-planning care. There always are more patients than subsidies.


Further, a Title X grant is designed to help with costs, not to fully cover them.

So family-planning programs are required to find other money to support the Title X project — not the other way around. For patients who qualify for Medicaid, reimbursement rates for reproductive health services are lower than the cost of the care. A typical family-planning visit might cost upward of $200, including the exam, lab tests and contraceptive method, but the Medicaid reimbursement rate may be as low as $20.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...14/AFogj1iD_story.html?utm_term=.f49733fbeb25
 
Re: Planned Parenthood money issues.....

JayDubya said:
Yes, your "fail" is absolutely "epic" for continuously misrepresenting the words of others while you "fail" to understand a very basic and relevant financial concept which fully explains why any funding at all is objectionable.

This is deliberate on your part, though.
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Abortion are already paid in full by the patient(possibly with donated assistance) or insurance. It is one of the few things that PP does that additional money is not needed. The paid price of the abortion already covers the materials use, personnel, and facility cost.

There is no need for any other funds for abortion.

You use fungible in such broad terns that one could turn nearly every purchase into something totally different.
 
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minnie616 said:
Exactly.
Since abortions are covered the woman or her insurance the taxpayer money is not being used for abortions.
When there is not even enough money to cover the Title X programs that PP supports there is not extra money to interchange.

From this Washington Post article:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...14/AFogj1iD_story.html?utm_term=.f49733fbeb25
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Thanks Minnie.

I think it is hysterical that one side of pro-lifers speaks to PP needing Title X funds to fund abortions (the whole fungible thing) and another side of prolifers indicate that abortions are very profitable ....which would logically negate any need for Title X funds -negating any fungibile issue.

Cognitive dissonance comes to mind when I see their reactions.

Could it not be that PP charges what it needs to perform and abortion and cover overhead? And if there is "profit" as a non profit that money goes back into supporting the services at Planned Parenthood?
 
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Bucky said:
I am ashamed to be part of this monstrosity.

When I worked at PP, I often got reimbursed for 5-star hotels and expensive meals on PP dime. I am quite embarrassed. I would eat mushroom Risotto, Filet mignon, wine, etc... I was addicted to these 5-star restaurants like SW Steakhouse or sleeping in Trump Hotel and getting it all reimbursed through PP.

I knew what I was doing was wrong as I was essentially spending government money on my expensive appetite. I take full blame as should PP. An extremely wasteful organization for allowing me to do that.
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What a pile.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
What a pile.
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I have to concur. With as many innacurate statements about Planned Parenthood as he has made...no way was he an insider.
 
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year2late said:
I have to concur. With as many innacurate statements about Planned Parenthood as he has made...no way was he an insider.
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Really kid?
 
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year2late said:
I have to concur. With as many innacurate statements about Planned Parenthood as he has made...no way was he an insider.
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And if he was, he'd have said so a long time ago.
 
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Bucky said:
Really kid?
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Yes. really. I mean seriously.....how did you work there and come to believe most PP clinics only did abortions and pregnancy tests?
 
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AGENT J said:
Well to be fair not all pro-lifers which-hunt for PP. There are many that do participate but there are also ones that do not and know focusing on PP is pretty silly.
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No kidding.

Some indicate that Planned Parenthood is making immense profits from abortions.

Others say that abortion are underpriced and they need to use Title X funds to be able to afford to do so many abortions (the fungible defense)

Even though we have seen both sides on DP boards...it is interesting that they seem to go out of their way not to contradict each other.:)

If they truly belived their words, they would argue their side....which includes arguments on their own side that completely contradict their own.
 
Re: Planned Parenthood money issues.....

year2late said:
No kidding.

Some indicate that Planned Parenthood is making immense profits from abortions.

Others say that abortion are underpriced and they need to use Title X funds to be able to afford to do so many abortions (the fungible defense)

Even though we have seen both sides on DP boards...it is interesting that they seem to go out of their way not to contradict each other.:)

If they truly belived their words, they would argue their side....which includes arguments on their own side that completely contradict their own.
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Well what seems to of happened over the years certain posters chase away normal and objective prolifers. There are many here but few participate and i dont blame them. Now its even worse because theres at least two pro-choicers maybe 3 now that are also horrific. But i have no problem calling them out and have and do.
 
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