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The abortion argument will soon change forever.

AGENT J said:
1.) yes please do it will be a first
2.) not a fact
3.) not a fact
4.) not a fact
5.) not a fact
6.) lol since you haven't provided ONE SINGLE word or concept being used wrong the answer is zero and we are still waiting for you to provide ONE SINGE fact that supports your claims and makes them true.
Please do so in your next post, thanks!
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Absolute ****posting.
 
JayDubya said:
Absolute ****posting.
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You are free to have that opinion what we are waiting for is you to provide one fact that makes your claims true. Please and Thanks!
 
Risky Thicket said:
Time and technology will soon change the abortion argument. In the near future it will be possible, don't ask me how, to transfer the fertilized egg to the male half of the pregnant pair for the completion of the pregnancy to term. If then the woman cannot complete the pregnancy the male will have that option and the argument of "killing an innocent life" will be much less of an issue.

Once that day arrives, and it surely will, the abortion argument will change. I'd venture to guess that more men would be supportive of the pro-choice position.
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What your post demonstrates is your complete lack of understanding of the pro-life side. You would think you could grasp it since the basic principle involved is in the word itself (I will spell that out for you since it must not be clear--the word is life). The people who are pro-life oppose abortion because they believe it is ending a human life. Which it is. It has nothing to do with gender and your moronic scenario would change nothing.
 
AGENT J said:
You are free to have that opinion what we are waiting for is you to provide one fact that makes your claims true. Please and Thanks!
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You are pretending the concept of "Things die when they are killed," is disputable.

You are doing this with braindead autocontradiction. That isn't debate - it's trolling.
 
JayDubya said:
1.)You are pretending the concept of "Things die when they are killed," is disputable.
2.) You are doing this with braindead autocontradiction. That isn't debate - it's trolling.
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1.) 100% factually wrong, please qoute where i said that and support that claims with facts that make it true.
2.) you are free to think facts and proving your posts factually wrong is trolling but its meaningless to reality.

Now please if you will. Provide ONE single fact that supports your previous false claims and now provided facts the support your new false claim and make it true.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) 100% factually wrong, please qoute where i said that and support that claims with facts that make it true.
2.) you are free to think facts and proving your posts factually wrong is trolling but its meaningless to reality.

Now please if you will. Provide ONE single fact that supports your previous false claims and now provided facts the support your new false claim and make it true.
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All right all that bull**** aside, you asked a question about something insipid, something it would be impossible for you not to understand, and now even that basic concept has been explained to you ad nauseum.

Feel free to refrain from any sort of chatbot filler response.
 
JayDubya said:
All right all that bull**** aside, you asked a question about something insipid, something it would be impossible for you not to understand, and now even that basic concept has been explained to you ad nauseum.

Feel free to refrain from any sort of chatbot filler response.
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Again more opinions, deflections and factually wrong claims but ZERO facts that support any of those claims. Seems you are avoiding what you be a very simple request IF your claims are true. Please provide one fact that makes you claims true, thanks.
 
AGENT J said:
Again more opinions, deflections and factually wrong claims but ZERO facts that support any of those claims. Seems you are avoiding what you be a very simple request IF your claims are true. Please provide one fact that makes you claims true, thanks.
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No. Stop trolling.
 
JayDubya said:
No. Stop trolling.
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So you can't? Thats what I figured since you never have, thanks for clearing that up. Please let us know if that changes and you can. thanks!!
 
JayDubya said:
No. Stop trolling.
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year2late said:
I want to see the abortion rates drastically decrease, do you?
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I want to see a healthy population growth rate, do you?

DO you really think fingerwagging and slut shaming is an effective way to decrease abortion rates?
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It's a fine straw man you have built. The abortion debate is about what happens once there is a pregnancy, not what comes before it.

You are asking all women to believe in the "value" of a fetus the same way you do. Do you really think people who think along your lines has ability to change philosophical beliefs of another in a way significant enough to drastically decrease abortion rates? I hold NO hope for your method of trying to advocate for decreasing abortion rates drastically,
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Yes, in the same way I want everyone who supports capital punishment to value human life the way I do. Most of what you believe as a progressive likely hinges on a desire that others believe the way you do... most of the progressive platform is imposing progressive morality on others.

What will help? Certainly not slut shaming of fingerwagging.
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Do you honestly think that abortion promotes safer sex practices? If so then I have a bridge to sell you.

Two things. Turning an unwanted pregnancy into a wanted one. This will not appeal to most because it will require women KNOWING they will have really good health care for their families long term and an ability for families to be supported or self sustaining in a safe and nurturing environment.
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That is nonsense. The kind of assurances you feel are required to give birth are something only that has only kind-of achievable even today anywhere in the world. The world isn't full of assurances, and never has been, and somehow our species has managed OK. If you are older than 40 the likelihood is you were born into a loving family that had none of those assurances. What you promote is to replace of thousands of years of built up common sense with irrational, neurotic worry. Hell, the whole concept behind the illegal immigration debate on the progressive side is that there are loving, nurturing families in poverty stricken countries yearning to come to America while the same progressives argue that children shouldn't be born in America unless they are assured an easy life.

The second and most hopeful is improving safety, accessibility, and affordability of high quality long term contraception for women and development of the same for men. That goal is much more attainable - in the relative short term (perhaps 10 years)
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The survival of the species requires that we have children. The progressive movement sees the movie "Children of Men" as a Utopia, apparently.

But if you think shaming women into not aborting is helpful......I cannot stop you. You might get a convert....at the same time as turning off others completely.
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I'm stating my mind the same as you are. You will push women away and also convert a few too. It is the nature of things.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Time and technology will soon change the abortion argument. In the near future it will be possible, don't ask me how, to transfer the fertilized egg to the male half of the pregnant pair for the completion of the pregnancy to term. If then the woman cannot complete the pregnancy the male will have that option and the argument of "killing an innocent life" will be much less of an issue.

Once that day arrives, and it surely will, the abortion argument will change. I'd venture to guess that more men would be supportive of the pro-choice position.
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What if the female doesnt consent to the removal of the zygote? Would the govt have the means to use force to do so in order to carry out the male's wishes?

I can see it being a benefit to a committed couple who want a child but the woman is unable to carry a pregnancy to term (or doesnt want to).
 
Lursa said:
What if the female doesnt consent to the removal of the zygote? Would the govt have the means to use force to do so in order to carry out the male's wishes?

I can see it being a benefit to a committed couple who want a child but the woman is unable to carry a pregnancy to term (or doesnt want to).
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Good question. I don't have an answer, however.
 
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