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Planned Parenthood was saved by Republican Female Senators.

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Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but Planned Parenthood should be completely defunded. The only difference between PP clinics vs FQHC's (Federally Qualified Health Centers) is one thing, and one thing only: abortion.

Here are some facts about Planned Parenthood:

1. PP does not provide mammograms. Not one PP clinic.

The Federal Drug Administration’s list, updated weekly, of certified mammography facilities does not list any Planned Parenthood clinics.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-provides-mammograms/?utm_term=.fa5391201ed5

2. Most PP clinics only offer abortion and pregnancy tests. They are basically like a killing CVS factory. In all honestly the birth control and pregnancy test are probably better at CVS. PP is more like dollar store quality.

3. Can PP help you with Diabetes, high blood pressure, Breast Cancer? Nope.

PP is an unnecessary, dangerous, overcharging, corrupt organization. The doctors performing abortions in their clinic are not even licensed.

PP is anti women's health and anti doctors. Tonya Reeves died in a PP clinic because PP refused to call the real professionals.

I'm unsure what these two female senators were thinking. Abortion is just wasteful spending.
 
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It’s impossible to know how much money Planned Parenthood brings in for abortion. Because as specific as the annual report is about the number of services it provides, it’s far less detailed when talking about where its revenue comes from (They are within their rights, so whatever). But it’s easy to calculate, as the Weekly Standard did, that Planned Parenthood gets at least a third of its clinic income—and more than 10 percent of all its revenue, government funding included—from its abortion procedures.

Ask anyone who runs a for-profit business or nonprofit charity if something that brings in one-third of their revenue is “central” to their endeavor, and the answer is likely to be yes. So yes, abortion is central to what Planned Parenthood does. There ARE a few things that aren’t central to their purpose though. As compared with the nearly 334,000 abortions that Planned Parenthood provided in 2011, 28,674 women received prenatal services. And 2,300 were referred to adoption agencies.
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3 percent of Planned Parenthood's services are abortion but what about their revenues?

Here's the breakdown:

Abortion make up about 3% of Planned Parenthood services however PP generates roughly 10-40% of its revenue from abortion. When you account they receive 40-50% from the government, the "stuff" they claim is really important - women's healths, makes up a very small portion of PP's revenue.
 
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Bucky said:
Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but Planned Parenthood should be completely defunded. The only difference between PP clinics vs FQHC's (Federally Qualified Health Centers) is one thing, and one thing only: abortion.

Here are some facts about Planned Parenthood:

1. PP does not provide mammograms. Not one PP clinic.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-provides-mammograms/?utm_term=.fa5391201ed5

2. Most PP clinics only offer abortion and pregnancy tests. They are basically like a killing CVS factory. In all honestly the birth control and pregnancy test are probably better at CVS. PP is more like dollar store quality.

3. Can PP help you with Diabetes, high blood pressure, Breast Cancer? Nope.

PP is an unnecessary, dangerous, overcharging, corrupt organization. The doctors performing abortions in their clinic are not even licensed.

PP is anti women's health and anti doctors. Tonya Reeves died in a PP clinic because PP refused to call the real professionals.

I'm unsure what these two female senators were thinking. Abortion is just wasteful spending.
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Yeah, more of the same nonsense I see.

And what the hell is an abortion test? I have heard of a pregnancy test and an std test but an abortion test? Never heard of it and I am not sure such a thing exists.

Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses conduct breast exams and refer patients to other facilities for mammograms. Individual clinics sometimes provide more than referrals, arranging for mobile mammography vans.

I realize that you hate PP and women's rights, but your views are colored by extreme anti-abortion points of view rather than objective grounds.
 
Peter King said:
Yeah, more of the same nonsense I see.

And what the hell is an abortion test? I have heard of a pregnancy test and an std test but an abortion test? Never heard of it and I am not sure such a thing exists.

Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses conduct breast exams and refer patients to other facilities for mammograms. Individual clinics sometimes provide more than referrals, arranging for mobile mammography vans.

I realize that you hate PP and women's rights, but your views are colored by extreme anti-abortion points of view rather than objective grounds.
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We know for a fact without abortions, PP would not be able to sustain themselves. You can cry blue in the face they help women in other areas, but again, that has been proven to makeup a very small portion of what PP does.

I don't hate women's right but PP is simply a wasteful organization unless you care about abortions. They don't provide anything else that a FQHC provides.
 
Peter King said:
Yeah, more of the same nonsense I see.

And what the hell is an abortion test? I have heard of a pregnancy test and an std test but an abortion test? Never heard of it and I am not sure such a thing exists.

Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses conduct breast exams and refer patients to other facilities for mammograms. Individual clinics sometimes provide more than referrals, arranging for mobile mammography vans.

I realize that you hate PP and women's rights, but your views are colored by extreme anti-abortion points of view rather than objective grounds.
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Where did anyone say anything about abortion tests?
 
Bucky said:
We know for a fact without abortions, PP would not be able to sustain themselves. You can cry blue in the face they help women in other areas, but again, that has been proven to makeup a very small portion of what PP does.

I don't hate women's right but PP is simply a wasteful organization unless you care about abortions. They don't provide anything else that a FQHC provides.
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We should double their funding. Women go there because they provide a valuable service. No one is forced to go there. They are great
 
Bucky said:
Most people that want to be doctors or nurses aspire to work at REAL hospitals... not Planned Parenthood!
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Except the ones that do
 
vegas giants said:
We should double their funding. Women go there because they provide a valuable service. No one is forced to go there. They are great
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Correction: Women go there because they feel they have no other choice. They go there out of desperation.
 
Bucky said:
Correction: Women go there because they feel they have no other choice. They go there out of desperation.
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I await your evidence. Abortions are not forced on women. They want them. Just as they want the other services PP performs. This is a fact
 
Bucky said:
Most people that want to be doctors or nurses aspire to work at REAL hospitals... not Planned Parenthood!
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CHOICE in America includes, but's not limited to reproduction. There's also all the potential professions, which individuals who willing to go through the preparations and requirements to enter a profession, more than likely know what environment that they want to apply their knowledge and skills.

Obviously a lot of medical professionals see the merits of the Planned Parenthood Organization and consider it to be a worthy place to practice their profession.
 
Bucky said:
Correction: Women go there because they feel they have no other choice. They go there out of desperation.
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So where do women go when there is no place to go?

You want women to suffer because they don't meet your values or economic standards so therefore, in your eyes, they are worthless and undeserving of any reproductive healthcare?
 
Bucky said:
Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but Planned Parenthood should be completely defunded. The only difference between PP clinics vs FQHC's (Federally Qualified Health Centers) is one thing, and one thing only: abortion.

Here are some facts about Planned Parenthood:

1. PP does not provide mammograms. Not one PP clinic.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-provides-mammograms/?utm_term=.fa5391201ed5

2. Most PP clinics only offer abortion and pregnancy tests. They are basically like a killing CVS factory. In all honestly the birth control and pregnancy test are probably better at CVS. PP is more like dollar store quality.

3. Can PP help you with Diabetes, high blood pressure, Breast Cancer? Nope.

PP is an unnecessary, dangerous, overcharging, corrupt organization. The doctors performing abortions in their clinic are not even licensed.

PP is anti women's health and anti doctors. Tonya Reeves died in a PP clinic because PP refused to call the real professionals.

I'm unsure what these two female senators were thinking. Abortion is just wasteful spending.
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Do you ever get tired of posting false information? Please cite your sources for you claim that most PP clinics only offer abortion and pregnancy checks and that doctors are not licensed.

Most health clinics do NOT do mammograms on site. My doctor's office doesn't. She refers to the hospital for them.
 
Removable Mind said:
So where do women go when there is no place to go?

You want women to suffer because they don't meet your values or economic standards so therefore, in your eyes, they are worthless and undeserving of any reproductive healthcare?
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FQHC's
 
The anti-PP babble is almost all undocumented.

Women go to PP for many reasons, abortion only a very small % of the work done there.

God blesses the female senators who saved federal funding for PP.
 
Bucky said:
Correction: Women go there because they feel they have no other choice. They go there out of desperation.
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It nice that they do have a place to go to get help and care.
 
Sen. Murkowski saved PP for her state's residents. If this was pre-17th amendment, state legislatures would have forced their senators to vote no; vote may have been about 75-25. Maybe I should reconsider the 17th, which my conservative friends abhor ;
 
Bucky said:
Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but Planned Parenthood should be completely defunded. The only difference between PP clinics vs FQHC's (Federally Qualified Health Centers) is one thing, and one thing only: abortion.

Here are some facts about Planned Parenthood:

1. PP does not provide mammograms. Not one PP clinic.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-provides-mammograms/?utm_term=.fa5391201ed5

2. Most PP clinics only offer abortion and pregnancy tests. They are basically like a killing CVS factory. In all honestly the birth control and pregnancy test are probably better at CVS. PP is more like dollar store quality.

3. Can PP help you with Diabetes, high blood pressure, Breast Cancer? Nope.

PP is an unnecessary, dangerous, overcharging, corrupt organization. The doctors performing abortions in their clinic are not even licensed.

PP is anti women's health and anti doctors. Tonya Reeves died in a PP clinic because PP refused to call the real professionals.

I'm unsure what these two female senators were thinking. Abortion is just wasteful spending.
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and how many times do we women have to say BITE ME Leave it alone.
Your "facts" are not true.
As a guy - you are unlikely to ever have to use their services for anything.
If you think abortion is wasteful spending - how do you feel about tax payers taking care of a child a woman might be forced to have??
Abortion should be safe, legal and rare.
 
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jghiretire said:
and how many times do we women have to say BITE ME Leave it alone.
Your "facts" are not true.
As a guy - your are unlikely to ever have to use their services for anything.
If you think abortion is wasteful spending - how do you feel about tax payers taking care of a child a woman might be forced to have??
Abortion should be safe, legal and rare.
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Facts are facts. If they are untrue, please specify.
 
JamesBY said:
The anti-PP babble is almost all undocumented.

Women go to PP for many reasons, abortion only a very small % of the work done there.

God blesses the female senators who saved federal funding for PP.
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A small % of the work but a large integral key revenue source for their business.

That is a fact.
 
vegas giants said:
I await your evidence. Abortions are not forced on women. They want them. Just as they want the other services PP performs. This is a fact
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Do you think honestly that Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift are going to Planned Parenthood? Do you think it is some cool place to go to?

Mostly, scared, confused, and poor girls from broken homes go to PP. A damn 14-16 year girl is going to PP, not because she wants to but is scared looking for answers and support. PP is going to push a damn abortion claiming no one will know and it is easy...

It is a ****ing horrible message.
 
Bucky said:
A small % of the work but a large integral key revenue source for their business.

That is a fact.
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I hope they make a billion dollars off abortions
 
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