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RamFel said:
Yes, it is.
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WORTHLESS BLATHER? Absolutely! (And Thank You for finally Acknowledging Fact.)

RamFel said:
You must be mistaken again.
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NOT SO LONG AS THE FACTS SUPPORT WHAT I WRITE --and don't support what you write. I'm still waiting for you to present the slightest bit of Objective Fact that an unborn human, with its attached placenta as a vital organ, is the same thing as an ordinary baby, that doesn't have (or need) an attached placenta as a vital organ.

RamFel said:
Really, yes.
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KILLING A CHICKEN IS MURDER? **Nope!!!** It is just a mere animal, and the word "murder" only applies to killing persons. When was the last time you swatted a fly and called it "murder"? When was the last time you thought about your immune system killing hordes of invading bacteria, and called it "mass murder"?

RamFel said:
And you're completely correct.
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OF COURSE I AM CORRECT. Like I said, the Facts are on my side, not yours.

RamFel said:
We have been over this before and I suppose we'll have go through it all Omer again and again until at last you get it
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I'M QUITE SURE I NEVER NEED TO "GET" YOUR STUPID LIES. You will continue to **fail** to support those lies with Objectively Verifiable Data (which is precisely why they are Stupid Lies), and I will continue to point out that you are **failing** to present any Objectively Valid Data to support your Stupid Lies.
 
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AGENT J said:
1.) true your post did suck
2.) true the proof to support your retarded lie is nonexistent
3.) false, but if you feel obligated maybe try things that are true and factual

and again, let us know when you can support your claims or simply show honesty and integrity and admit to the fact its not true. Thanks!
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I have, I can prove it anytime.

ZEFs (as you have called them) don't exist. That term is used to describe babies that have not born yet. But they are true babies. Proven.
 
Originally Posted by FutureIncoming

"SOMEONE" IS THE SAME THING AS A PERSON. You don't call a tree a "someone". You don't call a fish a "someone". You don't call a human cuticle cell a "someone". You don't call a human hydatidiform mole a "someone". You don't call a brain-dead human adult on life-support a "someone" after a Death Certificate has been formally and properly filled out. And since there is no Objectively Verifiable Data showing that an unborn human qualifies as a "someone", to call it that is to spout a Stupid Lie.

Do you mean to say you've never heard of "someone" who has died?

WHICH IS ACTUALLY A POOR TRANSLATION FROM THE ORIGINAL, a Commandment to not murder. Which means if you encounter a peaceful alien descending the ramp from a flying saucer, you'd better not kill it.

Sounds like an overrated opinion. to me.

ANOTHER STUPID LIE. Trying to support one Stupid Lie with another is never going to work!

So please stop with the lies already.
 
RamFel said:
Originally Posted by FutureIncoming

"SOMEONE" IS THE SAME THING AS A PERSON. You don't call a tree a "someone". You don't call a fish a "someone". You don't call a human cuticle cell a "someone". You don't call a human hydatidiform mole a "someone". You don't call a brain-dead human adult on life-support a "someone" after a Death Certificate has been formally and properly filled out. And since there is no Objectively Verifiable Data showing that an unborn human qualifies as a "someone", to call it that is to spout a Stupid Lie.

Do you mean to say you've never heard of "someone" who has died?

WHICH IS ACTUALLY A POOR TRANSLATION FROM THE ORIGINAL, a Commandment to not murder. Which means if you encounter a peaceful alien descending the ramp from a flying saucer, you'd better not kill it.

Sounds like an overrated opinion. to me.

ANOTHER STUPID LIE. Trying to support one Stupid Lie with another is never going to work!

So please stop with the lies already.
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Someone who has died is always referred to in the past tense when he was someone
 
RamFel said:
1.)I have, I can prove it anytime.
2.)ZEFs (as you have called them) don't exist.
3.)That term is used to describe babies that have not born yet. But they are true babies. Proven.
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1.) then please do so now :)
2.) Hey look another factual lie you just posted. ZEF is a factual acronym and thats not even debatable
3.) "true Babies" is an OPINION and NOT proven . . . .more importantly it has NOTHING to do with that fact that abortion =/= murder
Your post fails again

Now if you will, please provide one fact that makes your claim true . . ONE, thanks!
 
AGENT J said:
1.) then please do so now :)
2.) Hey look another factual lie you just posted. ZEF is a factual acronym and thats not even debatable
3.) "true Babies" is an OPINION and NOT proven . . . .more importantly it has NOTHING to do with that fact that abortion =/= murder
Your post fails again

Now if you will, please provide one fact that makes your claim true . . ONE, thanks!
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You know better than me that a baby is alive from conception until his/her death almost a century later. That is my proof. You .can try to shut it all down all you want. It works temporarily, but not forever. You of course, are always wrong. Today, tomorrow, and forever. Wrong and you know it!
 
RamFel said:
1.) You know better than me that a baby is alive from conception until his/her death almost a century later.
2.) That is my proof.
3.) You .can try to shut it all down all you want. It works temporarily, but not forever.
4.) You of course, are always wrong. Today, tomorrow, and forever. Wrong and you know it!
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1.) When did I say a ZEF, Baby, unborn, preborn or what ever name you want to call it, is not alive . . please qoute me saying it's not alive. Oh thats right, i never did. thats just a retarded dishonest strawman and lie you are making up LMAO
2.) LMAO thats not proof that abortion is equal to murder . . try again
3.) shut what down, you havent provided anything that supports your retarded lie yet?
4.) Nothing I have ACTUALLY said about this is wrong, hence your inability to provide any proof or support for the retarded lie you keep trying to sell and failing (the vast majority of pro-life people dont even support your lie) so Now if you will.

Please provided one single fact that makes abortion = murder, we are waiting! Thanks
 
RamFel said:
You know better than me that a baby is alive from conception until his/her death almost a century later. That is my proof. You .can try to shut it all down all you want. It works temporarily, but not forever. You of course, are always wrong. Today, tomorrow, and forever. Wrong and you know it!
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An embryo is alive. A fetus is alive. I know of no pro-lifer that disagrees. FInd me one.


What we disagree on .....philosophically we believe that it becomes a baby when born. You believe it is a baby when it is two cells,

We both can find references to back up our semantic argument.

But go ahead and find me one person that believes a fetus is not alive.

Every once in a while folks bring up the "brain dead" thing. That is a comparison of brainwaves...no more, no less. Clinical brain death occurs in a born person. It takes a lot more than an eeg to call someone clinically brain dead...birth being a requirement.
 
year2late said:
An embryo is alive. A fetus is alive. I know of no pro-lifer that disagrees. FInd me one.


What we disagree on .....philosophically we believe that it becomes a baby when born. You believe it is a baby when it is two cells,

We both can find references to back up our semantic argument.

But go ahead and find me one person that believes a fetus is not alive.

Every once in a while folks bring up the "brain dead" thing. That is a comparison of brainwaves...no more, no less. Clinical brain death occurs in a born person. It takes a lot more than an eeg to call someone clinically brain dead...birth being a requirement.
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You are very funny.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) When did I say a ZEF, Baby, unborn, preborn or what ever name you want to call it, is not alive . . please qoute me saying it's not alive. Oh thats right, i never did. thats just a retarded dishonest strawman and lie you are making up LMAO
2.) LMAO thats not proof that abortion is equal to murder . . try again
3.) shut what down, you havent provided anything that supports your retarded lie yet?
4.) Nothing I have ACTUALLY said about this is wrong, hence your inability to provide any proof or support for the retarded lie you keep trying to sell and failing (the vast majority of pro-life people dont even support your lie) so Now if you will.

Please provided one single fact that makes abortion = murder, we are waiting! Thanks
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That is smart of you. I am happy to accept that view.
 
The biggest problem with the DNC is that when something is wrong their first instinct is to fund it more. They should immediately look into reform. Pay your current lower level employees more and your admin less. That tends to make things more efficient without even restructuring protocol :)
 
RamFel said:
That is smart of you. I am happy to accept that view.
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LMAO Im always smart and thats what I thought! You still can't support your retarded and destroyed lie. You lose and facts win again!
As always, when you can, either post honestly and with and integrity and admit to the fact abortion =/= murder, keep posting lies and having them mocked and destroyed OR please provided one single fact that makes abortion = murder, we are waiting! Thanks
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minnie616 said:
Just an FYI

Any abortion in the US that takes place after 20 weeks gestation( almost all are because of severe fetal abnormalities or the pregnancy is high risk to the woman's life/major health risk) requires that the doctor use a fatal injection into the fetal heart and makes sure the unborn no longer has a heartbeat before the doctor uses the meds to start the contractions.

Also the live action news article you linked to is a type of propaganda.

While 7 states have no gestational limits there are no 9th month abortions (the article says it is legal to abort up to 9 moths.)

The rate of abortions is no higher past 21 weeks in those states than any other state that allows abortions up to 24 weeks gestation.
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Yeah I was thinking that third trimester abortions should be reserved for cases of defect in the womb or threat to the mother's life.
 
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