whateverdude
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We can argue when abortion should be illegal and at what stage of the pregnancy, but to me, that's the smaller debate. And if you're not educated on the development of a fetus, then you don't know what you're talking about.
But do you concede that at some point, based on the status of the fetus, that it should be illegal past a certain point in the pregnancy?
When I say based on the status of the fetus, that's important.
Because some will concede because of risks involving the mother during late term abortion, but not for any ethical opinions relating to the fetus. To me that's extremely selfish and devoid of morality. '
You have to concede that a some point abortion should be illegal because the fetus has developed so much that it's not ethical to kill it. I don't buy the viability argument.
I don't see how whether a fetus can live outside the womb or not is relevant to whether it's deserving of personhood.
And "personhood" is a social construct. Scientifically speaking it's a human with human DNA at every stage of pregnancy. But ethically there's clearly a difference between a fertilized egg and an 8 month old fetus.
I'm not pro-life... But I can't stand the selfishness I see from pro-choice people who basically see any ethical argument that pertains to the fetus as "sexist".
Apparantly, EVERY argument has to be about them.
I think most pro-lifers are pretty dumb too, but at the same time, pro-choice people tend to make strawmen about "sexism" which is just stupid. There's an argument to be had about when abortion is okay and when it isn't.
And you can chime in as a male and not be "sexist"
But do you concede that at some point, based on the status of the fetus, that it should be illegal past a certain point in the pregnancy?
When I say based on the status of the fetus, that's important.
Because some will concede because of risks involving the mother during late term abortion, but not for any ethical opinions relating to the fetus. To me that's extremely selfish and devoid of morality. '
You have to concede that a some point abortion should be illegal because the fetus has developed so much that it's not ethical to kill it. I don't buy the viability argument.
I don't see how whether a fetus can live outside the womb or not is relevant to whether it's deserving of personhood.
And "personhood" is a social construct. Scientifically speaking it's a human with human DNA at every stage of pregnancy. But ethically there's clearly a difference between a fertilized egg and an 8 month old fetus.
I'm not pro-life... But I can't stand the selfishness I see from pro-choice people who basically see any ethical argument that pertains to the fetus as "sexist".
Apparantly, EVERY argument has to be about them.
I think most pro-lifers are pretty dumb too, but at the same time, pro-choice people tend to make strawmen about "sexism" which is just stupid. There's an argument to be had about when abortion is okay and when it isn't.
And you can chime in as a male and not be "sexist"