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Do you concede abortion should be banned at some point?[W:415]

FutureIncoming said:
FACTS ARE FACTS. If I say, "I think the world is round", is that just an opinion, or is it a Fact, or is it both? I will agree that significant parts of my post that you quoted were opinion, but can you prove the Positive Claim that all of it was **only** opinion? Well???
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No, I won't do that, because you are not in charge of the debate rules.

I finally have you admitting that your "proof" is merely your opinion, per #375 above. Thank you.
 
GEIxBattleRifle said:
If I may ask, are you trying to endorse relativism?
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Opinions are relative until evidenced with solid facts and analyzed with critical thinking.

"The truth stands alone", the old Christian war cry in defense of biblical literalism, is no more provable than the antiGodist "God is dead."
 
JamesBY said:
No, I won't do that, because you are not in charge of the debate rules.
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ONE NEED NOT BE IN CHARGE OF THE RULES TO ASK IF ONE WILL FOLLOW THE RULES. It appears the idiocy you consider to be "logic" is still spewing. Tsk, tsk!

JamesBY said:
I finally have you admitting that your "proof"
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PROOF OF WHAT, EXACTLY? My post #375 only talked about stuff in #372, and I'm not aware of attempting to prove something in that post. I merely explained some things, and, yes, offered some opinions.
 
That you think you understand the rules is part of the problem: you don't.

Thank you for admitting you have no proof.

You remind me of a colleague in one of my grad classes: not a good comparison at all.
 
JamesBY said:
That you think you understand the rules is part of the problem: you don't.
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TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN, I SEE. Tsk, tsk!

JamesBY said:
Thank you for admitting you have no proof.
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TELLING A STUPID LIE AGAIN, I SEE. Tsk, tsk! It is entirely because you repeated your positive claim without offering any supporting evidence, that I get to conclude you have spouted a Stupid Lie.

JamesBY said:
You remind me of a colleague in one of my grad classes: not a good comparison at all.
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I ACCEPT THE COMPLEMENT OF BEING SUPERIOR AT DEBATE. Thanks!
 
FutureIncoming said:
TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN, I SEE. Tsk, tsk!


TELLING A STUPID LIE AGAIN, I SEE. Tsk, tsk! It is entirely because you repeated your positive claim without offering any supporting evidence, that I get to conclude you have spouted a Stupid Lie.


I ACCEPT THE COMPLEMENT OF BEING SUPERIOR AT DEBATE. Thanks!
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You can accept you are full of bologna, yes. :lamo Tsk Tsk.
 
JamesBY said:
You can accept you are full of bologna, yes. :lamo Tsk Tsk.
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Do you mean "baloney"? ...or did you mean he was full of a meat substitute instead of foolish talk?
 
FutureIncoming said:
TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN, I SEE. Tsk, tsk!


TELLING A STUPID LIE AGAIN, I SEE. Tsk, tsk! It is entirely because you repeated your positive claim without offering any supporting evidence, that I get to conclude you have spouted a Stupid Lie.
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I ACCEPT THE COMPLEMENT OF BEING SUPERIOR AT DEBATE. Thanks!
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Tsk Tsk ...
 
FutureIncoming said:
ANOTHER POSITIVE CLAIM BY JAMESBY, worthless because unsupported by any data whatsoever.
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In order to support it he would have to know how much bologna you ate for lunch...
 
whateverdude said:
We can argue when abortion should be illegal and at what stage of the pregnancy, but to me, that's the smaller debate. And if you're not educated on the development of a fetus, then you don't know what you're talking about.

But do you concede that at some point, based on the status of the fetus, that it should be illegal past a certain point in the pregnancy?

When I say based on the status of the fetus, that's important.
Because some will concede because of risks involving the mother during late term abortion, but not for any ethical opinions relating to the fetus. To me that's extremely selfish and devoid of morality. '

You have to concede that a some point abortion should be illegal because the fetus has developed so much that it's not ethical to kill it. I don't buy the viability argument.
I don't see how whether a fetus can live outside the womb or not is relevant to whether it's deserving of personhood.

And "personhood" is a social construct. Scientifically speaking it's a human with human DNA at every stage of pregnancy. But ethically there's clearly a difference between a fertilized egg and an 8 month old fetus.

I'm not pro-life... But I can't stand the selfishness I see from pro-choice people who basically see any ethical argument that pertains to the fetus as "sexist".
Apparantly, EVERY argument has to be about them.
I think most pro-lifers are pretty dumb too, but at the same time, pro-choice people tend to make strawmen about "sexism" which is just stupid. There's an argument to be had about when abortion is okay and when it isn't.
And you can chime in as a male and not be "sexist"
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No... a law is not your doctor. Nor should it make your medical decisions for you and or your family.
 
FutureIncoming said:
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY HIS CLAIM IS WORTHLESS. At a Debate site, saying something is so, while in total ignorance of any relevant Facts about the "something", is idiotic.
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So how much bologna did you eat for lunch? Just be forthright so we can end this charade!!
 
FutureIncoming said:
ZERO. In fact, I'm pretty sure I haven't eaten any bologna in months. There are less-expensive and higher-quality foods that I prefer, over bologna.
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OK. You are not full of bologna then... so you must be full of baloney. Glad we sorted that out.
 
FutureIncoming said:
BAD LOGIC. There are far more things than bologna and baloney, of which someone might be full.
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The argument was that you were full of bologna.

Do you deny this?
 
Bodhisattva said:
The argument was that you were full of bologna.
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THAT ARGUMENT WAS OFF-TOPIC. PLUS, it was just a Stupid Lie, not really an argument, because there was no supporting evidence provided by the claimant.

Bodhisattva said:
Do you deny this?
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SEE ABOVE. A Stupid Lie does not qualify as an argument.
 
My guess is that most Pro Life people believe that those that have the very painful abortion operation do so out of convenience. That if only they the prochoicer wasn't so selfish they would see the light. I'll concede that maybe reason enough for some, but not all. Health ,health of the Mother of the Child is often a factor. A national ban would mean in some cases a Right Winger in Kentucky is interfering in the lives of a adult couple Marin County California. Okay okay, but don't brag about living in free country.
 
FutureIncoming said:
THAT ARGUMENT WAS OFF-TOPIC. PLUS, it was just a Stupid Lie, not really an argument, because there was no supporting evidence provided by the claimant.


SEE ABOVE. A Stupid Lie does not qualify as an argument.
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Arguing that you are full of bologna is not a lie... and it is an argument.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Arguing that you are full of bologna is not a lie... and it is an argument.
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STUPIDLY FALSE. Any Debate argument that contains a positive claim must be supported with evidence. The failure to include the evidence is what makes the claim not-an-argument. It is just a claim. And since the claim was untrue, it was a lie.
 
FutureIncoming said:
STUPIDLY FALSE. Any Debate argument that contains a positive claim must be supported with evidence. The failure to include the evidence is what makes the claim not-an-argument. It is just a claim. And since the claim was untrue, it was a lie.
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FI, you are full of bologna. You are not following your link of evidence, which is

1. There are two teams, each consisting of two or three speakers.

2. Each team has two or three constructive speeches, and two to three rebuttal speeches. The affirmative gives the first constructive speech, and the rebuttals alternate: negative, affirmative, negative, affirmative. The affirmative has both the first and last speeches of the debate.

Go look up 'Lincoln Douglas and NO I WILL DO IT FOR YOU

Debate Formats

READ THE DARN THING
 
The title of this thread is " do you concede abortion should be banned at some point?

As I provided factual info., banning abortions does not stop them.

In fact more abortions take place in countries where they are banned than in countries where elective abortions are legal.

As I proved elective abortions do not occur after 24 weeks gestation.

Therefore there is no need to ban them.
 
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