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Much has been said about "a woman's right to choose". I fully agree that a woman should be fully entitled to decide whether or not to submit to the procedure of childbirth. Where I DISAGREE with untold millions of women is that I believe that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that a woman exercise that right of choice BEFORE - - not AFTER - - deciding to climb onto a bed and engage in the specific type of activity which she VERY WELL KNOWS might produce the gestation of a new, miniaturized human being. To nonchalantly and cavalierly place an order for the prospective bundle of joy only to cancel the order in barbaric fashion at some future date is heinously and hideously abominable.

The living, moving, growing child within the womb has no voice with which to plead for his or her chance at life; - - but WHY does that precious, tiny life form have no right to existence?
 
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SilverFox said:
Much has been said about "a woman's right to choose". I fully agree that a woman should be fully entitled to decide whether or not to submit to the procedure of childbirth. Where I DISAGREE with untold millions of women is that I believe that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that a woman exercise that right of choice BEFORE - - not AFTER - - deciding to climb onto a bed and engage in the specific type of activity which she VERY WELL KNOWS might produce the gestation of a new, miniaturized human being. To nonchalantly and cavalierly place an order for the prospective bundle of joy only to cancel the order in barbaric fashion at some future date is heinously and hideously abominable.

The living, moving, growing child within the womb has no voice with which to plead for his or her chance at life; - - but WHY does that precious, tiny life form have no right to existence?
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Great. :roll:

What gives YOU the right to think you should have the power to tell women what they can and can't do regarding something you'll never have to deal with?

Hypocrite much?
 
SilverFox said:
The living, moving, growing
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TRUE

SilverFox said:
child within the womb
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FALSE. An unborn human is **provably** very different from an ordinary "baby" or "child", and thus should never be called those things.

SilverFox said:
has no voice with which to plead
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ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. Its actions are Objectively Measurable and Verifiable.

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for his or her chance at life;
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STUPIDLY FALSE --IT IS ALREADY ALIVE. And it is committing assaults worse than any ordinary/true parasite, even though it itself does not qualify as a parasite.

SilverFox said:
- - but WHY does that precious
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OPINION. ALL VALUATIONS ARE SUBJECTIVE, RELATIVE, AND ARBITRARY. Just imagine every human pregnancy resulting in quintuplets, and the inundation of mouths-to-feed will prove even to you that valuations are Subjective, Relative, and Arbitrary.

SilverFox said:
, tiny life form have no right to existence?
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "RIGHT TO LIFE" IN NATURE. Just ask the giant dinosaurs! Humans created the notion for human purposes, but humans also know that anything that can be done can also be over-done. About 2/3 of all conceptions Naturally fail to lead to live births. Are YOU willing to pay the medical costs that would be associated with discovering all the possible causes of failure, and fixing them --when we know that every single such failure is extremely easy to replace?
 
SilverFox said:
Much has been said about "a woman's right to choose". I fully agree that a woman should be fully entitled to decide whether or not to submit to the procedure of childbirth. Where I DISAGREE with untold millions of women is that I believe that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that a woman exercise that right of choice BEFORE - - not AFTER - - deciding to climb onto a bed and engage in the specific type of activity which she VERY WELL KNOWS might produce the gestation of a new, miniaturized human being. To nonchalantly and cavalierly place an order for the prospective bundle of joy only to cancel the order in barbaric fashion at some future date is heinously and hideously abominable.

The living, moving, growing child within the womb has no voice with which to plead for his or her chance at life; - - but WHY does that precious, tiny life form have no right to existence?
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I agree. The CHOICE is before, not after. At the same time, the right to an individual's decision, has some bearing. As a male, I'm glad it's not my decision.
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DaveFagan said:
I agree. The CHOICE is before, not after. At the same time, the right to an individual's decision, has some bearing. As a male, I'm glad it's not my decision.
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It is if you're responsible. And to be absolutely sure, get yourself fixed if you're going to spread your seed around rather than take the chance.
 
Some people support a womens right to choose, but I think, if I'm paying for it :shrug:

I'm just kidding I never pay... It doesn't cost anything to fall down the stairs does it?

I swear, some of these girls think I'm made of coat hangers!
 
SilverFox said:
Much has been said about "a woman's right to choose". I fully agree that a woman should be fully entitled to decide whether or not to submit to the procedure of childbirth. Where I DISAGREE with untold millions of women is that I believe that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that a woman exercise that right of choice BEFORE - - not AFTER - - deciding to climb onto a bed and engage in the specific type of activity which she VERY WELL KNOWS might produce the gestation of a new, miniaturized human being. To nonchalantly and cavalierly place an order for the prospective bundle of joy only to cancel the order in barbaric fashion at some future date is heinously and hideously abominable.

The living, moving, growing child within the womb has no voice with which to plead for his or her chance at life; - - but WHY does that precious, tiny life form have no right to existence?
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Hyperbolic bilge.

Look at your post, you basically demean women for getting pregnant...you say nothing about the guy that got them that way.

Don't like abortion? Don't have one.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Some people support a womens right to choose, but I think, if I'm paying for it :shrug:

I'm just kidding I never pay... It doesn't cost anything to fall down the stairs does it?

I swear, some of these girls think I'm made of coat hangers!
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No, you're just a POS.
 
SilverFox said:
Much has been said about "a woman's right to choose". I fully agree that a woman should be fully entitled to decide whether or not to submit to the procedure of childbirth. Where I DISAGREE with untold millions of women is that I believe that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that a woman exercise that right of choice BEFORE - - not AFTER - - deciding to climb onto a bed and engage in the specific type of activity which she VERY WELL KNOWS might produce the gestation of a new, miniaturized human being. To nonchalantly and cavalierly place an order for the prospective bundle of joy only to cancel the order in barbaric fashion at some future date is heinously and hideously abominable.

The living, moving, growing child within the womb has no voice with which to plead for his or her chance at life; - - but WHY does that precious, tiny life form have no right to existence?
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I probably wouldn't have made abortion my first thread. That's my only bit of advice.
 
Dragonfly said:
Great. :roll:

What gives YOU the right to think you should have the power to tell women what they can and can't do regarding something you'll never have to deal with?

Hypocrite much?
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Dragonfly said:
Great. :roll:

What gives YOU the right to think you should have the power to tell women what they can and can't do regarding something you'll never have to deal with?

Hypocrite much?
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I mean, hypocrisy has a definition, and you clearly don't know how to apply it.
 
Dragonfly said:
Great. :roll:

What gives YOU the right to think you should have the power to tell women what they can and can't do regarding something you'll never have to deal with?

Hypocrite much?
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What gives me the right to protest the gunning down or the knifing of a total stranger in a public place? I'm not actively involved in the drama. I don't personally know anyone who is involved in the episode. - - However, the taking of a human life who has done nothing to merit the snuffing out of his or her life is brutally unconscionable.

I claim no POWER of high-minded judgement - - other than that of pointing out the fact that the deliberate taking of human life is murder.

If a sexually active woman KNOWS that she is not prepared to become a mother, then she is morally COMPELLED to follow strict contraceptive measures for pregnancy prevention. If she should unexpectedly succumb to the advances of an impassioned Romeo in a moment of impassioned weakness, then it behooves her to IMMEDIATELY take action to medically insure that no pregnancy will ensue from her "love tryst". Waiting weeks and months to decide to abort the living, growing, functioning child within her womb is barbaric and indefensible. There is no rational or mitigating excuse for such cavalier irresponsibility.
 
Dragonfly said:
Great. :roll:

What gives YOU the right to think you should have the power to tell women what they can and can't do regarding something you'll never have to deal with?

Hypocrite much?
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Absolutely. It has no voice, cannot defend itself? Why not create it and kill it? Easy peasy! :)
 
FutureIncoming said:
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FALSE. An unborn human is **provably** very different from an ordinary "baby" or "child", and thus should never be called those things.


ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. Its actions are Objectively Measurable and Verifiable.


STUPIDLY FALSE --IT IS ALREADY ALIVE. And it is committing assaults worse than any ordinary/true parasite, even though it itself does not qualify as a parasite.


OPINION. ALL VALUATIONS ARE SUBJECTIVE, RELATIVE, AND ARBITRARY. Just imagine every human pregnancy resulting in quintuplets, and the inundation of mouths-to-feed will prove even to you that valuations are Subjective, Relative, and Arbitrary.


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "RIGHT TO LIFE" IN NATURE. Just ask the giant dinosaurs! Humans created the notion for human purposes, but humans also know that anything that can be done can also be over-done. About 2/3 of all conceptions Naturally fail to lead to live births. Are YOU willing to pay the medical costs that would be associated with discovering all the possible causes of failure, and fixing them --when we know that every single such failure is extremely easy to replace?
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I truly feel sorry for you that you value life so cheaply. I understand that there are specific cases in which heart-wrenching decisions are made under duress. It is not my intent to address those rare aberrational episodes. However, a woman who callously has casual sex with the thought in the back of her mind that - should she have the misfortune to become pregnant, she can simply have an abortion - is a stone-hearted b**** who is grievously short on humanity.
 
SilverFox said:
I truly feel sorry for you that you value life so cheaply. I unde stand that there are specific cases in which heart-wrenching decisions are made under duress. It is not my intent to address those rare aberrational episodes. A woman who callously has casual sex with the thought in the back of her mind that - should she have the misfortune to become pregnant, she can simply have an abortion - is a stone-hearted b**** who is grievously short on humanity.
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Do you understand that not every woman who has an abortion is the evil witch you chauvanistically paint her as? How dare you call any woman that makes this difficult choice a "b****". Your post is beyond stone hearted. You do not get to speak for the women you hate.
 
FutureIncoming said:
TRUE


FALSE. An unborn human is **provably** very different from an ordinary "baby" or "child", and thus should never be called those things.


ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. Its actions are Objectively Measurable and Verifiable.


STUPIDLY FALSE --IT IS ALREADY ALIVE. And it is committing assaults worse than any ordinary/true parasite, even though it itself does not qualify as a parasite.


OPINION. ALL VALUATIONS ARE SUBJECTIVE, RELATIVE, AND ARBITRARY. Just imagine every human pregnancy resulting in quintuplets, and the inundation of mouths-to-feed will prove even to you that valuations are Subjective, Relative, and Arbitrary.


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "RIGHT TO LIFE" IN NATURE. Just ask the giant dinosaurs! Humans created the notion for human purposes, but humans also know that anything that can be done can also be over-done. About 2/3 of all conceptions Naturally fail to lead to live births. Are YOU willing to pay the medical costs that would be associated with discovering all the possible causes of failure, and fixing them --when we know that every single such failure is extremely easy to replace?
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Now that is a fine exercise in semantic apologetics reminiscent of many you will find in periods of societally sanctioned mass killings. Very smooth.
 
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Do you understand that not every woman who has an abortion is the evil witch you chauvanistically paint her as?
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I know some folks think they understand a falsehood, but it's generally not encouraged by others like you have just done.
 
SilverFox said:
What gives me the right to protest the gunning down or the knifing of a total stranger in a public place?
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You mean like the crazy anti abortion guy that killed 3 people at the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic?

Tone down the extremism and start treating women as adults.
 
JayDubya said:
I know some folks think they understand a falsehood, but it's generally not encouraged by others like you have just done.
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An amazingly stupid post.

You still believe the undercover PP videos...even though they seriously discredited.
 
beefheart said:
Do you understand that not every woman who has an abortion is the evil witch you chauvanistically paint her as? How dare you call any woman that makes this difficult choice a "b****". Your post is beyond stone hearted. You do not get to speak for the women you hate.
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You're wrong on several counts. I don't purport to speak for women. I don't categorically hate women. I do hate and despise murder. Any woman who goes into an abortion clinic six moths pregnant after finally deciding to be relieved of her inconvenience is not a tenderhearted, compassionate human being. There was plenty of time beforehand to make such a drastic decision. In most cases, the stalling and indecision was unnecessary. I'm sorry that you are so easily offended, - - but her tardy response does NOT make her a candidate for sainthood. It is what it is, Toots.
 
SilverFox said:
Much has been said about "a woman's right to choose". I fully agree that a woman should be fully entitled to decide whether or not to submit to the procedure of childbirth. Where I DISAGREE with untold millions of women is that I believe that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that a woman exercise that right of choice BEFORE - - not AFTER - - deciding to climb onto a bed and engage in the specific type of activity which she VERY WELL KNOWS might produce the gestation of a new, miniaturized human being. To nonchalantly and cavalierly place an order for the prospective bundle of joy only to cancel the order in barbaric fashion at some future date is heinously and hideously abominable.

The living, moving, growing child within the womb has no voice with which to plead for his or her chance at life; - - but WHY does that precious, tiny life form have no right to existence?
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So, have you done anything positive to help prevent abortion, or have you just preached about what others should and shouldn't do? For example, have you helped chase down delinquent fathers? Have you helped a single mother pay for day care so she can get off welfare? Have you advocated for access to birth control by teen-age girls? Have you adopted a child? Or are you satisfied by just expressing moral indignation and expecting others to make all the effort and sacrifices your conscience demands of them?
 
Fishking said:
I probably wouldn't have made abortion my first thread. That's my only bit of advice.
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I'm afraid it is a male thing. Far too many of us fear women and feel the need to belittle and control them. Ask any Muslim.
 
JayDubya said:
Naw; they killed another human being in cold blood, they're indefensible filth.
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The "filth" was the man that created that fetus without consent and now you want to compound his crime by forcing a women to bear his child. That makes you even lower than him.
 
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