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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    BTW...Hitler's agenda was to purify the world of Jewish blood to include slavs. Also on his shortlist was mentally and physically handicapped, gypsies, criminals, homosexuals, blacks, communists, trade unionists, and many others. Those not slated for death were imprisoned and often worked to death.
    Right.

    And while I'm not certain he and his flunkies were thorough enough to ensure that they did everything by the book in all the other cases, with regards to Jews in particular - who make the lion's share of the victims - they were considered less than human by the state and denied legal personhood.


    That's the thing you and yours just don't get; you want humans to be denied personhood so they can be killed on a whim - this is a common and ugly trend in history.
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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    By this standard Nazis didn't discriminate when they threw those they denied personhood into concentration camps. And American slaves weren't discriminated against either.
    AS USUAL, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. "Denying personhood" can only be done to an entity that Objectively Verifiably qualifies as a person. It is impossible to deny personhood to an entity that Objectively Verifiably doesn't qualify as a person.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Scientifically false - a Homo sapiens
    DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LABEL MEANS? The word "sapiens" refers to brainpower; many humans have a lot of it, compared to members of other species. But that doesn't mean that just because something is human, it automatically also has brainpower. See your nearest hydatidiform mole for proof!

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    in the zygote stage of life is as much a
    HOMO SAPIENS AS EACH CELL OF A HYDATIDIFORM MOLE. After all, every cell in the mole is a direct descendant of a zygote! The overall entity started out as a zygote, began dividing multiple times, becoming a morula, eventually cracked open the "zona pellucida" that originally surrounds every zygote and emerged as a blastocyst, implanted into a womb, and began stealing nutrients from a woman's body to make even more cells, every one of which is 100% human and has all the DNA of the original zygote. Therefore according to your cherry-picked and thus incomplete/worthless scientific data, you must agree that a hydatidiform mole is just as much a homo sapiens as yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    "human being"
    IS NOT THE SAME THING AS "HUMAN". The word "being" is a reference to personhood and the brainpower possessed by persons, which ordinary animals lack (and thus we don't call rabbits "rabbit beings"). Any reason you give to deny "human being" status to a hydatidiform mole is the exact same reason that that status can be denied to a zygote and a morula and a blastocyst! All of that group, including the hydatidiform mole (not to mention embryo and fetus) are 100% human and 0% "being".

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    as a Homo sapiens in any other stage of life.
    SEE ABOVE.
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    Stupidly Prejudiced Master Race Idiocy was supposedly stomped into irrelevance by WW2; insisting "human=person" fails to Be Prepared for any future with non-human persons in it. So: Define "person" to accurately distinguish one, regardless of how exists, from a mere animal, universally. Why should Stupid Prejudice let our unborn qualify?

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Right.

    And while I'm not certain he and his flunkies were thorough enough to ensure that they did everything by the book in all the other cases, with regards to Jews in particular - who make the lion's share of the victims - they were considered less than human by the state and denied legal personhood.
    Wow, I've gone over my number of annual post and replies that I've set for myself.
    But, it's been ....interesting. Take care Jay.

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    By this standard Nazis didn't discriminate when they threw those they denied personhood into concentration camps.

    And American slaves weren't discriminated against either.



    Of course, you are wrong. What else is new?
    Again this is your imagination and lack of reality getting away from you again, a zygote is not a slave nor was it a Jewish person that the Nazi's exterminated. Making such claims just shows how out there your delusional views on what zygotes are really is.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Scientifically false - a Homo sapiens in the zygote stage of life is as much a "human being" as a Homo sapiens in any other stage of life.
    Nope, a human being is a person and a born or close to birth person. You know, the ones who have rights, rights like the woman who have abortions because it is their body, their uterus, not yours and none of your business.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Wow, I've gone over my number of annual post and replies that I've set for myself.
    But, it's been ....interesting. Take care Jay.
    Sure, by all means puss out when you don't have an argument.

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    60 million and counting since R v W in '73. Sounds like genocide to me.
    Do you even know what genocide is?

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Do you even know what genocide is?
    You're banking on the word people, aren't you?

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're banking on the word people, aren't you?
    Genocide would be exterminating a specific gene pool, like an ethnicity, race or other hereditary trait. That is clearly not happening with abortion. It could, but it's not.

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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're banking on the word people, aren't you?
    I don't need to walk around in circles walk around in circles walk around in circles walk around in
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    Re: Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're banking on the word people, aren't you?
    Nope.

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