• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Texas lawmaker Jessica Farrar wants men fined for masturbating

No, I just want you to honestly answer my question. I don't understand why you struggle so hard to avoid answering it.

Do you agree this legislation was a waste of taxpayer time and money?

It's a simple question. Why do you avoid answering it?

It's not though. It's actually very relevant. In both cases, we had legislation introduced which had no chance of passing. I suspect in the case of Obamacare, you thought the antics were a waste of time and money, but you seem to support THIS waste of time and money. So why do you support a waste of time and money for one instance but not for the other?

Look, if you just want to say you're being partisan and are wanting to ignore the giant hypocrisy of the positions, I'll let it go. Some honesty would be refreshing. You've always struck me as a fairly honest person, so I could respect the honesty. But, right now, you seem to be holding a view that it's okay for one and not for another and when you are point blank asked to answer a simple question, you write multiple paragraphs to avoid answering the simple question.

It's a yes or no question. Do you agree this legislation introduced by the Democrat in Texas was a waste of taxpayer time and money? I'm fully aware of all the other context you're trying to provide, I'm just saying it's irrelevant because there are far more effective ways to fight than to waste time and money.

Yes or no...do you agree this legislation is a waste of taxpayer time and money?

I'm not avoiding, I've addressed this issue in this thread. I've made my opinions regarding this legislative action by Jessica Farrar.

Do you want to label me as a partisan hack? Is this your game? You have a motive here. What is it?

What's your point regarding the obamacare issues, Republicans/Democrats, etc,...not related to this thread?
 
I've made my opinions regarding this legislative action by Jessica Farrar.
Then you should have no problem indulging me once more. Do you agree this legislation is a waste of taxpayer time and money. And, if not, why do you feel (as I suspect you do) the Republican repeal of Obamacare was a waste of time and money, when both legislations had no chance of passing?

Do you want to label me as a partisan hack?
Actually, quite the opposite. I'm hoping to not have to label you as such. But you're not making it easy, given how you still won't directly answer my question.

You have a motive here. What is it?
Honesty. I'm a big fan of honesty. This legislation is a waste of time and money. You know it as well as I do, but only one of us is willing to say it.

You want to spin all these other reasons about how bad Republicans in Texas are acting with regards to abortion, but none of those things matter because there are better ways to fight those stupid things than with stupid. This legislation is stupid, but you won't admit it.

My motive is honesty, I want you to be honest. I want you to honestly say this legislation is stupid, or honestly explain why it's okay for one person to waste time and money but not another.

What's your point regarding the obamacare issues, Republicans/Democrats, etc,...not related to this thread?
Comparison. If you feel Republican legislation on Obamacare was a waste of time and money, then you should feel this is a waste of time and money for the same reasons.
 
Then you should have no problem indulging me once more. Do you agree this legislation is a waste of taxpayer time and money. And, if not, why do you feel (as I suspect you do) the Republican repeal of Obamacare was a waste of time and money, when both legislations had no chance of passing?

Actually, quite the opposite. I'm hoping to not have to label you as such. But you're not making it easy, given how you still won't directly answer my question.

Honesty. I'm a big fan of honesty. This legislation is a waste of time and money. You know it as well as I do, but only one of us is willing to say it.

You want to spin all these other reasons about how bad Republicans in Texas are acting with regards to abortion, but none of those things matter because there are better ways to fight those stupid things than with stupid. This legislation is stupid, but you won't admit it.

My motive is honesty, I want you to be honest. I want you to honestly say this legislation is stupid, or honestly explain why it's okay for one person to waste time and money but not another.

Comparison. If you feel Republican legislation on Obamacare was a waste of time and money, then you should feel this is a waste of time and money for the same reasons.

Funny, you claiming to be a big fan of honesty. Really?

What I see you doing is trying to narrow my argument down to me making a purely partisan argument against Republicans...but more in particular why I believe all of the right wing in the Texas Legislature are ASSHOLES to the upteen degree with all of their anti-abortion and attacks on women's health programs - and why I don't identify the Democrats in the Texas Legislature as asshole, but more in particular because you see Farra's efforts as being childish, a waste of taxpayer's time and money..."and I don't".

Every legislative attack on women by Texas's radical Republicans, along with the hardcore radical 5th Circuit of Appeals Count have ALL BEEN KICKED OUT by the Supreme Court of the United States. The Texas Republican legislators KNEW that they were wasting taxpayers time and money by creating legislation that everybody who has the ability to read them knows that these efforts are unconstitutional.

So now Jessica Farra steps up and and makes an example of just how CHILDISH bull**** that the hard right in the Texas Legislature's efforts and have been...and far more costly than her pointing it out via her bill.

If it had been Democrats had been on the warpath with the same ridiculous legislative attempts I'd be just as critical.

I don't care who, what political philosophy, or what party is engaging in diminishing or dismantling fundamental rights for women or men, I'll call bull****.

So then you leap to the national political stage and head straight to Obamacare. Gosh, how could I possibly appease your need for me to answer your question about that fiasco?

Our government (The Government of the United States of Trump, Inc. - formerly known as the United States of America) is ****ed up like a Chinese Fire Drill. It's really hard to say which corrupt faction (and individual elected officials and appointees) in Washington that I find to be the worst, the most taxing on the citizens regarding any legislation ever emanated from both of these humanitarian officials in our government who would sell their grandmothers for a buck.

Should I flip a coin?
 
Funny, you claiming to be a big fan of honesty. Really?
Everything I have said has been honest. And my position is unchanged regarding wasting taxpayer time and money. What's not honest about anything I've said?

What I see you doing is trying to narrow my argument down to me making a purely partisan argument against Republicans...but more in particular why I believe all of the right wing in the Texas Legislature are ASSHOLES to the upteen degree with all of their anti-abortion and attacks on women's health programs - and why I don't identify the Democrats in the Texas Legislature as asshole, but more in particular because you see Farra's efforts as being childish, a waste of taxpayer's time and money..."and I don't".
It's the "you don't" see her actions as being wasteful which is the problem. I'm not trying to narrow you down to partisanship, as I said, I'm quite hoping that's not who you are.

But, so far, you've really not given me a single argument as to why this legislation isn't wasteful aside from "Don't you see how bad those Republicans in Texas are!". That's essentially been your entire argument to justify this waste of time and money.

Every legislative attack on women by Texas's radical Republicans, along with the hardcore radical 5th Circuit of Appeals Count have ALL BEEN KICKED OUT by the Supreme Court of the United States. The Texas Republican legislators KNEW that they were wasting taxpayers time and money by creating legislation that everybody who has the ability to read them knows that these efforts are unconstitutional.

And I don't support their wasting of time and money either. So, what...because Republicans waste time and money, it's okay for this legislator to waste time and money? And you AREN'T making a partisan position because...why again?

So now Jessica Farra steps up and and makes an example of just how CHILDISH bull**** that the hard right in the Texas Legislature's efforts and have been...and far more costly than her pointing it out via her bill.
If my wife spends half of our weekly income on a pet rock, does it make sense for me to show her the error of her ways by going out and buy a pet rock too? Obviously not, it just means we both wasted money.

If it had been Democrats had been on the warpath with the same ridiculous legislative attempts I'd be just as critical.
But they are! That's exactly what this legislation is...a ridiculous legislative attempt to mock their political opponents' positions and doing so by wasting taxpayer time and money. And yet, you're not critical, you're supportive and you're adversarial with someone who IS critical.

I don't want to call your argument partisan, but it's really the only thing which is consistent in your argument.

So then you leap to the national political stage and head straight to Obamacare. Gosh, how could I possibly appease your need for me to answer your question about that fiasco?
We aren't talking about Obamacare, we're talking about Republicans wasting time and money on legislation that was never going to pass.

If you'd like, we can instead focus on legislation in Texas which they know is going to be struck down by higher courts. Or we can focus on similar legislation in Missouri. I don't care where the legislation is, I just care that you seem to only care about legislators wasting time and money when it's for causes you oppose and not for causes you support.

Whereas with me, I don't support wasting time and money for anything. I don't support the anti-choice movement (in Texas or anywhere) and I do support the right of a person to make decisions about their own body, but I DON'T support wasting taxpayer time and money on useless legislation only intended to mock people. You, on the other hand, seem to have no problem with wasting time and money in an effort to mock people, but only for causes you support.

So how is that not partisan?
 
Last edited:
Everything I have said has been honest. And my position is unchanged regarding wasting taxpayer time and money. What's not honest about anything I've said?

It's the "you don't" see her actions as being wasteful which is the problem. I'm not trying to narrow you down to partisanship, as I said, I'm quite hoping that's not who you are.

But, so far, you've really not given me a single argument as to why this legislation isn't wasteful aside from "Don't you see how bad those Republicans in Texas are!". That's essentially been your entire argument to justify this waste of time and money.



And I don't support their wasting of time and money either. So, what...because Republicans waste time and money, it's okay for this legislator to waste time and money? And you AREN'T making a partisan position because...why again?

If my wife spends half of our weekly income on a pet rock, does it make sense for me to show her the error of her ways by going out and buy a pet rock too? Obviously not, it just means we both wasted money.

But they are! That's exactly what this legislation is...a ridiculous legislative attempt to mock their political opponents' positions and doing so by wasting taxpayer time and money. And yet, you're not critical, you're supportive and you're adversarial with someone who IS critical.

I don't want to call your argument partisan, but it's really the only thing which is consistent in your argument.

We aren't talking about Obamacare, we're talking about Republicans wasting time and money on legislation that was never going to pass.

If you'd like, we can instead focus on legislation in Texas which they know is going to be struck down by higher courts. Or we can focus on similar legislation in Missouri. I don't care where the legislation is, I just care that you seem to only care about legislators wasting time and money when it's for causes you oppose and not for causes you support.

Whereas with me, I don't support wasting time and money for anything. I don't support the anti-choice movement (in Texas or anywhere) and I do support the right of a person to make decisions about their own body, but I DON'T support wasting taxpayer time and money on useless legislation only intended to mock people. You, on the other hand, seem to have no problem with wasting time and money in an effort to mock people, but only for causes you support.

So how is that not partisan?

You've milked the bull to death. Anything else?
 
We're done. You seem to like making up the meanings of my posts. Carry on.
So you aren't going to finally answer the question I've repeatedly asked you? No one could make up meanings to your posts if you'd just answer the simple question.

Why won't you answer the simple question?
 
So you aren't going to finally answer the question I've repeatedly asked you? No one could make up meanings to your posts if you'd just answer the simple question.

Why won't you answer the simple question?

Why have you failed to under my answers? Obviously my posts are above your comprehension.

If you don't understand the points I've made that tells you everything you need regarding your question, then I don't think you deserve my answer. Does that help?
 
Why have you failed to under my answers?
I haven't failed to understand, you just haven't answer the question. You have told me all the reasons that Republicans are bad, but you have never said if this Democrat's legislation is stupid and a waste of taxpayer money. It's a simple yes or no question and you refuse to answer it.

Obviously my posts are above your comprehension.
No, I think I have a pretty good grasp on why you won't answer the question. :thumbs:

If you don't understand the points I've made
Again, I understand fine. But nothing you have said answers the question. You keep telling me how bad Republicans are, but you won't simply say yes or no as to whether you think this legislation is a waste of taxpayer time and money, even as you rail against Republicans who pass legislation which you claim they know will be struck down by the courts as a waste of time and money.

No, I'm fairly certain I understand just fine why you won't answer my question. And it disappoints me, because I was really hoping you were different.
 
I haven't failed to understand, you just haven't answer the question. You have told me all the reasons that Republicans are bad, but you have never said if this Democrat's legislation is stupid and a waste of taxpayer money. It's a simple yes or no question and you refuse to answer it.

No, I think I have a pretty good grasp on why you won't answer the question. :thumbs:!

Again, I understand fine. But nothing you have said answers the question. You keep telling me how bad Republicans are, but you won't simply say yes or no as to whether you think this legislation is a waste of taxpayer time and money, even as you rail against Republicans who pass legislation which you claim they know will be struck down by the courts as a waste of time and money.

No, I'm fairly certain I understand just fine why you won't answer my question. And it disappoints me, because I was really hoping you were different.

I see, I've hurt your feelings about Texas Republican Legislators.

Gosh I have been been clear that while you consider Farra's bill a waste of taxpayers time and money I've already state that "I DONT"! I stated that eons ago

Texas hasn't Democrats in control for neat 3 decades. Thus it can be said that in my opinion the Republican controlled Legislation has been detrimental to Texas' general welfare - more than the Democrats have been.

So you want to play a "patisan gotcha game" because I show myself a Independent. That's mighty self-righteous of you.

I really don't care if I've disappointed you, that my positions regarding the Texas Republican Legislators appears to be so brutal and unfair in your eyes.

So with this said, your opinions about me will last until you find another poster who doesn't meet your perceptions about what constitutes a true independent...or not. Or whatever you want to create a dispute about.

Sadly I wasted about 2/3rds of my voting life voting primarily for Republicans. And even then I also voted for Democrats, even. And Libertarian or two.

Today I find all political parties to self-will-run-riot because can. The corruption is mind blowing, no matter the party or political philosophy.

So I'm sure you can find others who you'll engage to see if they meet you approval.

Good luck!
 
I see, I've hurt your feelings about Texas Republican Legislators.
Yes, everyone on this forum knows what a sucker I am for the Republican Party. :cool:
Gosh I have been been clear that while you consider Farra's bill a waste of taxpayers time and money I've already state that "I DONT"! I stated that eons ago
I don't believe you did. If you had, I wouldn't have kept asking.

Which then brings us to our second point. You seemed opposed to Republicans passing legislation that the courts were just going to strike down and I believe you called them a waste of money. So why is this different?

Texas hasn't Democrats in control for neat 3 decades. Thus it can be said that in my opinion the Republican controlled Legislation has been detrimental to Texas' general welfare - more than the Democrats have been.
I honestly could not care less which party does a better or worse job of running Texas. That's not the point at all.

So you want to play a "patisan gotcha game" because I show myself a Independent. That's mighty self-righteous of you.
I'm not though. I've told you numerous times I was hoping you wouldn't be partisan, but that your posts made it hard to come to any other conclusion.

I really don't care if I've disappointed you, that my positions regarding the Texas Republican Legislators appears to be so brutal and unfair in your eyes.
Oh, I don't care if you dislike the Texas Republicans, I have plenty of issues with the things they've done myself. My disappointment was in the fact you seem to criticize Republicans for the same thing you applaud in Democrats.

So with this said, your opinions about me will last until you find another poster who doesn't meet your perceptions about what constitutes a true independent
Has nothing to do with "Independent" but rather consistency. I couldn't give a flying fig what your political lean is. You condemn in Republicans what you seem to celebrate in Democrats. That's what disappoints me.

Sadly I wasted about 2/3rds of my voting life voting primarily for Republicans. And even then I also voted for Democrats, even. And Libertarian or two.

Today I find all political parties to self-will-run-riot because can. The corruption is mind blowing, no matter the party or political philosophy.
Good for you, don't really care.

What I care about is why you think "The Texas Republican legislators KNEW that they were wasting taxpayers time and money by creating legislation that everybody who has the ability to read them knows that these efforts are unconstitutional." but don't think Farrar's legislation was a waste of taxpayer time and money when everybody who has the ability to read it knows it stands no chance of getting passed.

Why is one okay and not the other? Why is it okay to create legislation to mock which will never pass, but not okay to pass legislation which isn't going to pass the courts? Why the inconsistency? I've asked you that numerous times and you have yet to give me an answer which doesn't basically boil down to "Republicans are bad!".

Why the inconsistency? If you don't want to be considered partisan, then give me a non-partisan answer to this question, a question which I've also asked you multiple times.
 
Yes, everyone on this forum knows what a sucker I am for the Republican Party. :cool:
I don't believe you did. If you had, I wouldn't have kept asking.

Which then brings us to our second point. You seemed opposed to Republicans passing legislation that the courts were just going to strike down and I believe you called them a waste of money. So why is this different?

I honestly could not care less which party does a better or worse job of running Texas. That's not the point at all.

I'm not though. I've told you numerous times I was hoping you wouldn't be partisan, but that your posts made it hard to come to any other conclusion.

Oh, I don't care if you dislike the Texas Republicans, I have plenty of issues with the things they've done myself. My disappointment was in the fact you seem to criticize Republicans for the same thing you applaud in Democrats.

Has nothing to do with "Independent" but rather consistency. I couldn't give a flying fig what your political lean is. You condemn in Republicans what you seem to celebrate in Democrats. That's what disappoints me.

Good for you, don't really care.

What I care about is why you think "The Texas Republican legislators KNEW that they were wasting taxpayers time and money by creating legislation that everybody who has the ability to read them knows that these efforts are unconstitutional." but don't think Farrar's legislation was a waste of taxpayer time and money when everybody who has the ability to read it knows it stands no chance of getting passed.

Why is one okay and not the other? Why is it okay to create legislation to mock which will never pass, but not okay to pass legislation which isn't going to pass the courts? Why the inconsistency? I've asked you that numerous times and you have yet to give me an answer which doesn't basically boil down to "Republicans are bad!".

Why the inconsistency? If you don't want to be considered partisan, then give me a non-partisan answer to this question, a question which I've also asked you multiple times.

Wow, if you don't like my belief system regarding politics...this is ****ing America! Too bad! I have the right to condemn any persons, parties, philosophical, legislation, or SC decision in any manner I want.

If you believe my criticisms to be inconsistent to how you perceive they should be - to make you feel better about whatever floats your boat - GOOD FOR YOU!
 
Wow, if you don't like my belief system regarding politics
Nothing to do with what I like, merely interested if you are consistent in what you believe.
I have the right to condemn any persons, parties, philosophical, legislation, or SC decision in any manner I want.
Absolutely. And if you want to be honest in hypocrisy, I have no problem with that. There are some issues (non-political mostly) in which I know I'm hypocritical and I openly and honestly admit to it.

Is that you on this subject? Do you acknowledge the hypocrisy of condemning for one what you applaud in the other?

If you believe my criticisms to be inconsistent to how you perceive they should be
No, not inconsistent with what I believe, but inconsistent about what you profess to believe. That's what I'm getting at.
 
Nothing to do with what I like, merely interested if you are consistent in what you believe.
Absolutely. And if you want to be honest in hypocrisy, I have no problem with that. There are some issues (non-political mostly) in which I know I'm hypocritical and I openly and honestly admit to it.

Is that you on this subject? Do you acknowledge the hypocrisy of condemning for one what you applaud in the other?

No, not inconsistent with what I believe, but inconsistent about what you profess to believe. That's what I'm getting at.

You're merely interested? Oh, no, it's much more than that.

So you to repeatedly engaged me to inform me about what you've judged as my hypocrisies and inconsistencies...am I ruining your life?

Have I cause you such mental distress?

Well, I feel blessed to have been confronted from a saint, a man of pure honesty, integrity.

So if you can't bring yourself from repeatedly attacking me because I don't conform to your beliefs, standards, moral compass, then I suggest that you talk with someone about this obsessive, compulsive need to set people straight according to your beliefs, views, and political allegiance.

And you somehow believe that everybody sees your political views always consistent, never hypocritical? There's no such a place when it comes to politics and religion.

As long as the Texas Legislature is under the control of "the radical right", and continue to repeatedly and knowing create laws that they know to be unconstitutional, I'll continue to criticise them exactly in the manner that's shaken you to the core of your being. And I 100% support Farra's actions. I don't care what her political label is.

What truly disappoints me that that same bill wasn't created by a Republican to make a mockery of his or her peers in the Legislature.

Give us both a break. This isn't going to go where you want it to. Otay?
 
You're merely interested? Oh, no, it's much more than that.
No, not really. I'm interested in determining if your positions are consistent or selective.

So you to repeatedly engaged me to inform me about what you've judged as my hypocrisies and inconsistencies...am I ruining your life?
Not at all. I'm posting on an Internet debate forum, I obviously have nothing else I'd rather be doing. So, I watch some basketball and point out the inconsistency in your position, while amusing myself with the fact you won't answer simple questions to avoid admitting your true beliefs.

Well, I feel blessed to have been confronted from a saint, a man of pure honesty, integrity.
You're welcome. You're also still not answering the question.

So if you can't bring yourself from repeatedly attacking me
I haven't attacked you once. I've given you many opportunities to clarify your position and explain why your position is not based in partisanship. I've even offered to make you feel better if you acknowledge your position is hypocritical, by pointing out I'm open and honest in my everyday life about situations in which I'm hypocritical.

No, far from attacking you, I've given you every opportunity to prove yourself someone who believes in positions, not politics. To this point, you've refused to provide any evidence though.

because I don't conform to your beliefs, standards, moral compass, then I suggest that you talk with someone about this obsessive, compulsive need to set people straight according to your beliefs, views, and political allegiance.
I already told you it has nothing to do with what I believe, but rather is about what you believe.

And you somehow believe that everybody sees your political views always consistent, never hypocritical? There's no such a place when it comes to politics and religion.
Sure there is. It's actually pretty easy to not be partisan/hypocritical. Do you know how to do it? I'll give you a hint...you decide how you feel about a position and you stick to that position no matter who agrees or doesn't agree with it.

But that's not what you're doing. You condemned Republicans for the same thing you applauded Democrats. And if it is simply the case that you recognize yourself to be hypocritical on such an issue, just be honest and say so. I'd have no problem with that at all.

But you aren't doing that. You're trying to justify one person's actions while condemning similar actions from another. So what choice does one have but to assume partisanship?

As long as the Texas Legislature is under the control of "the radical right", and continue to repeatedly and knowing create laws that they know to be unconstitutional, I'll continue to criticise them exactly in the manner that's shaken you to the core of your being.
:lol:

I love your strawman arguments. I guess when the inconsistency of one's position is exposed, all that's left is to wildly flail at any mirage masquerading as a strawman.

I've never once criticized you for criticizing Texas Republicans. I suspect I would mostly agree with you on the subject. No, my criticism is in the fact you think it's okay for the Democrat to waste taxpayer time and money, but not the Republican. And, again, if you would have declared you realize your position is hypocritical, then this conversation could have been over a long time ago. But you keep trying to justify it. And that's the issue at hand here.

And I 100% support Farra's actions. I don't care what her political label is.
Yes, you support wasting taxpayer time and money...but only for causes you support. Right?

Give us both a break.
Oh, I'm not bothered in the least. I'll happily keep pressing you to see if you'll recognize the inconsistency in your position. As I said, while I'm watching basketball, I have nothing I'd rather be doing than posting.

Also, just to remind you where we currently are:

"Why is one okay and not the other? Why is it okay to create legislation to mock which will never pass, but not okay to pass legislation which isn't going to pass the courts? Why the inconsistency? I've asked you that numerous times and you have yet to give me an answer which doesn't basically boil down to "Republicans are bad!".

Why the inconsistency? If you don't want to be considered partisan, then give me a non-partisan answer to this question, a question which I've also asked you multiple times."

If you could answer the question, that would be swell.
 
No, not really. I'm interested in determining if your positions are consistent or selective.

Not at all. I'm posting on an Internet debate forum, I obviously have nothing else I'd rather be doing. So, I watch some basketball and point out the inconsistency in your position, while amusing myself with the fact you won't answer simple questions to avoid admitting your true beliefs.

You're welcome. You're also still not answering the question.

I haven't attacked you once. I've given you many opportunities to clarify your position and explain why your position is not based in partisanship. I've even offered to make you feel better if you acknowledge your position is hypocritical, by pointing out I'm open and honest in my everyday life about situations in which I'm hypocritical.

No, far from attacking you, I've given you every opportunity to prove yourself someone who believes in positions, not politics. To this point, you've refused to provide any evidence though.

I already told you it has nothing to do with what I believe, but rather is about what you believe.

Sure there is. It's actually pretty easy to not be partisan/hypocritical. Do you know how to do it? I'll give you a hint...you decide how you feel about a position and you stick to that position no matter who agrees or doesn't agree with it.

But that's not what you're doing. You condemned Republicans for the same thing you applauded Democrats. And if it is simply the case that you recognize yourself to be hypocritical on such an issue, just be honest and say so. I'd have no problem with that at all.

But you aren't doing that. You're trying to justify one person's actions while condemning similar actions from another. So what choice does one have but to assume partisanship?

:lol:

I love your strawman arguments. I guess when the inconsistency of one's position is exposed, all that's left is to wildly flail at any mirage masquerading as a strawman.

I've never once criticized you for criticizing Texas Republicans. I suspect I would mostly agree with you on the subject. No, my criticism is in the fact you think it's okay for the Democrat to waste taxpayer time and money, but not the Republican. And, again, if you would have declared you realize your position is hypocritical, then this conversation could have been over a long time ago. But you keep trying to justify it. And that's the issue at hand here.

SNIP....

"Why is one okay and not the other? Why is it okay to create legislation to mock which will never pass, but not okay to pass legislation which isn't going to pass the courts? Why the inconsistency? I've asked you that numerous times and you have yet to give me an answer which doesn't basically boil down to "Republicans are bad!".

Why the inconsistency? If you don't want to be considered partisan, then give me a non-partisan answer to this question, a question which I've also asked you multiple times."

If you could answer the question, that would be swell.

Do you think I should divorce my wife and marry you so that you'd have a legal reason to nag and hound me over everything you believe that I should dedicate myself to believe -as you do? And make go to the Church of Slyfox696 2 to 3 time a week to confess all of acts of hypocrisies and my constant stawman arguement? Or you could talk to someone about your OCD?

You must have way too much time on your hands. You've written 25 words to my 1 to literally harass me with post after post. Do you have throw down tantrums every time someone isn't in lockstep to all of the things you want people to do or say?

Well, I what I do believe is that your way over your boundaries in what seems to be your belief that I owe you any reply about anything. You made a post, and me being from Texas, and your not, I thought I would help understand the Dildo extremist, hard right Republicans in our Legislature by voicing my opinion as to their predatory quests against Texas women's reproductive rights and health care.

And somehow you believe the Democrats in Texas have been equally aggressive and predatory against women....?...all because of one bill by Ms. Farra. Wow, that's some real critical thinking.

So now you've written a novel in an attempt to get me to answer one question. I have numerous times, but you don't like the various ways in which you want me to - in order for you to get to finally say, "Your a partisan hack and a hypocrite, and you're a shameful example of someone who calls themself an "independent"!

Isn't that your game. It's gotta be. What others motives would you have MR. Moderate? Give yourself permission to let go, let your mind rest, it must be exhausted from harassing me.

So to let you know, I'm going to let you go. Your wasting my time and resources. Electricity is expensive. My time is valuable. And I want to spread myself around the forums.

So I bid farewell. :2wave:
 
Do you think I should divorce my wife and marry you so that you'd have a legal reason to nag and hound me over everything you believe that I should dedicate myself to believe -as you do?
Why do you keep posting these ridiculous things? Why can't you just answer the question?

You've written 25 words to my 1 to literally harass me with post after post.
I'm not harassing you but yeah, I've had to post a lot because you won't answer the question. How about you save us both time and answer the question and quit stalling already?

And somehow you believe the Democrats in Texas have been equally aggressive and predatory against women....?...all because of one bill by Ms. Farra.
Hello, strawman. Always good to see you again.

If you could not post in fallacies, that would be great. I never said Democrats have been equally aggressive, I said this legislation was a waste of taxpayer time and money. You don't agree, but you do think when Republicans present legislation which can't pass it is a waste of time and money. You said so.

So my question is, and has been, why the inconsistency? Just answer the question and you won't feel the crushing need to continuously respond to me.

I have numerous times
Well, that's just false. You've answered one of my questions once and you haven't answered the other, except to say "Republicans are bad!", while at the same time, seemingly taking offense to the merest suggestion you're partisan.

but you don't like the various ways in which you want me to - in order for you to get to finally say, "Your a partisan hack and a hypocrite, and you're a shameful example of someone who calls themself an "independent"!
And there's our friend Mr. Strawman again.

Isn't that your game. It's gotta be.
Uh, no. I told you exactly what I was wanting from you long ago.

Why the exhaustive posting to avoid answering a simple question?

So to let you know, I'm going to let you go.
I'm not surprised you want to leave without answering the question. Because, at this point, I think we both know why you won't answer the question.

My time is valuable.
Your nearly 10 posts per day over the course of roughly 6 years begs to differ.

And I want to spread myself around the forums.
Understandable. You could have merely answered my two questions long ago and been finished with this conversation long ago. But you chose instead to find every reason in the world not to answer simple questions, including inventing a Church of Slyfox696 (an idea I really like, by the way), all so you could avoid admitting your biases.

So if you feel your time is being wasted, I suggest consulting a mirror when trying to figure out who to blame.
So I bid farewell. :2wave:
Have a terrific day. I'm sure there are more people somewhere to criticize and other people somewhere else to applaud, all for doing roughly the same thing.
 
It would be an interesting law to enforce. Would there be a separate "emission division" in each police department?
 
She doesn't seem to know all that much about conservatives when she declares that the bill will make it possible for doctors to refuse service to men like somehow that will make them freak out. I wonder if she realizes that some conservative men actually think people should be free to deny service? I doubt it. Telling people that your bill takes a step towards their goals is only going to get them to agree and perhaps suggest a little more in that direction.

Doctors can already refuse a vasectomy due to that doctor's moral belief. And, as you suggested in your post, I agree with them being allowed that decision.

Just one more reason why this bill and lawmaker are stupid.
 
Back
Top Bottom