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Many women oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

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Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
 
Nothing is wrong with those who oppose aggressive violence.

Half of us anti-abortion folks are women.
 
radcen said:
Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
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There is nothing wrong with them.

They simply believe that life is precious, even at inception, and should be given a chance.

That is no excuse to excoriate and denigrate women who choose for whatever reason to have an abortion.

Nor does it justify the emotion-based drive to criminalize or otherwise make impossible that choice for those who don't agree.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
There is nothing wrong with them.

They simply believe that life is precious, even at inception, and should be given a chance.

That is no excuse to excoriate and denigrate women who choose for whatever reason to have an abortion.

Nor does it justify the emotion-based drive to criminalize or otherwise make impossible that choice for those who don't agree.
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^^^This.
 
Captain Adverse said:
There is nothing wrong with them.

They simply believe that life is precious, even at inception, and should be given a chance.

That is no excuse to excoriate and denigrate women who choose for whatever reason to have an abortion.

Nor does it justify the emotion-based drive to criminalize or otherwise make impossible that choice for those who don't agree.
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I suppose any state criminal statute was to some extent driven by emotion. People have to feel pretty strongly that a given act is wrong to make it a crime.

The Roe majority's claim that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees a right to abortion was an invention even the Court has been unwilling to pay much more than lip service to for more than twenty years now. The majority in any state should be free to make abortion a crime, if they believe that is justified, whatever anyone outside that state may think.
 
radcen said:
Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
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What women choose to do to their fetuses I couldn't do to a dog's fetuses. There is nothing wrong with me.

I'm reluctantly okay with before four months, btw.
 
Everyone should be opposed to abortions, they are not desirable. Its the freedom to have them that people are justifiably torn on.
 
Lachean said:
Everyone should be opposed to abortions, they are not desirable. Its the freedom to have them that people are justifiably torn on.
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That's profound, you know.
 
A lot, and I mean a lot, of prolife-ism is all about the desire to feel good. "The sanctity of life!" "Before you were in the womb, I knew you." And so forth. Thus, abortion causes bad feelings: "You're killing a baby!" "What some women wouldn't give to be a mother!" And so forth.

Once feelings supersede reality, the whole thing degrades into a pissing contest.
 
radcen said:
Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
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I think most of us women who oppose abortion for convenience are mostly as you described us: educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. At least most of us try to be.

But what is 'wrong' with us is that we know that baby growing in our womb is a human life at an early stage of development. And we cannot mentally assign that life to something subhuman so that we can justify killing him/her for no other reason than we don't want him/her or don't want to have to go through the process of pregnancy and birth. There must be a special place in heaven for those women who cannot properly care for an infant but choose to give him/her life with a loving couple who have love to spare and so very much want to give him/her a good one. There is no greater love.
 
radcen said:
Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
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They love children, even of they haven't been born yet....
 
AlbqOwl said:
I think most of us women who oppose abortion for convenience are mostly as you described us: educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. At least most of us try to be.

But what is 'wrong' with us is that we know that baby growing in our womb is a human life at an early stage of development. And we cannot mentally assign that life to something subhuman so that we can justify killing him/her for no other reason than we don't want him/her or don't want to have to go through the process of pregnancy and birth. There must be a special place in heaven for those women who cannot properly care for an infant but choose to give him/her life with a loving couple who have love to spare and so very much want to give him/her a good one. There is no greater love.
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Deserves FAR more than just the single "Like" that VBB allows.
 
radcen said:
Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
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I oppose abortion.

But that is MY CHOICE>
 
Phys251 said:
A lot, and I mean a lot, of prolife-ism is all about the desire to feel good. "The sanctity of life!" "Before you were in the womb, I knew you." And so forth. Thus, abortion causes bad feelings: "You're killing a baby!" "What some women wouldn't give to be a mother!" And so forth.

Once feelings supersede reality, the whole thing degrades into a pissing contest.
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That's a load of crap.

How many abortions were conducted where the baby was screaming.

How many babies have survived a abortion?

You have no clue on the matter, yet you come off like some kind of know it all.

Yep............just another screaming blob of cells................right?
 
RetiredUSN said:
That's a load of crap.
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Yes and it is all yours.

How many abortions were conducted where the baby was screaming.
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Elective? None.

How many babies have survived a abortion?
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Elective abortions? None.

You have no clue on the matter
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Please do not delude yourself. If anything your posts are.

Yep............just another screaming blob of cells................right?
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Ignorant emotional drivel.
 
prometeus said:
Yes and it is all yours.

Elective? None.

Elective abortions? None.

Please do not delude yourself. If anything your posts are.

Ignorant emotional drivel.
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If so.................then scientifically prove it.

You cannot.

Your own post is bunk!
 
RetiredUSN said:
If so.................then scientifically prove it.
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What that you posted ignorant crap? The mere fact that you asking me to prove a negative speak volumes about what you bring to the debate.

Your own post is bunk!
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Yea, people who post tripe like you did always say that when they posts are shown for what they are.
 
prometeus said:
What that you posted ignorant crap? The mere fact that you asking me to prove a negative speak volumes about what you bring to the debate.

Yea, people who post tripe like you did always say that when they posts are shown for what they are.
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No............you have posted ignorant crap.

Babies have been left to die after a failed abortion.

There are plenty of testimonies out there from doctors, nurses, and mothers to back up what I have typed.

You and the rest of your ilk love to act all knowledgeable, but can't back up any of your own drivel.
 
RetiredUSN said:
No............you have posted ignorant crap.
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Because I demonstrated that you post was uneducated drivel?

Babies have been left to die after a failed abortion.
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Was it an elective abortion?

There are plenty of testimonies out there from doctors, nurses, and mothers to back up what I have typed.
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Not involving elective abortions.

You and the rest of your ilk love to act all knowledgeable, but can't back up any of your own drivel.
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You made the assertion, you back it up, but as usual and in every thread you participate, you only post uneducated and unsupported tripe.
 
Phys251 said:
A lot, and I mean a lot, of prolife-ism is all about the desire to feel good. "The sanctity of life!" "Before you were in the womb, I knew you." And so forth. Thus, abortion causes bad feelings: "You're killing a baby!" "What some women wouldn't give to be a mother!" And so forth.

Once feelings supersede reality, the whole thing degrades into a pissing contest.
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That is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard anyone say. Could you possibly be any more clueless if you tried? No, no you couldn't. :shock:
 
radcen said:
Many women honestly and sincerely oppose abortion. What's wrong with them?

They're not all dumb and/or uneducated. Many of them are educated, intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and so on. Yet to hear some talk about it, you'd swear they're abandoning "The Sisterhood", or something.
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A: Women know how crazy they can be, they know how willful they can be, they know that they need to OCCASIONALLY! be contained.

Women tend to like men and the greater collective to help keep them on the trail.

Then there are the ones who genuinely care most about the collective.

The care more about everyone else than they do themselves.

They think that giving up this RIGHT IS RIGHT.

There is nothing wrong with them.

Women are Wonderful

I love women.

:yes:
 
prometeus said:
The law is reason, free from passion
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/aristotle165159.html
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I don't know about Greek law at the time of Aristotle, so for all I know his statement was accurate in that context. But as applied to the U.S. today, I can't agree with it. Our American criminal statutes, which come from English common law, for the most part reflect the moral convictions of the English Protestants who founded this country. Their religious belief that certain acts--murder, theft, rape, arson, etc.--are so wrong they deserve to be punished as crimes did not spring from pure reason, nor was it free from passion.
 
prometeus said:
The law is reason, free from passion
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/aristotle165159.html
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I don't know about Greek law at the time of Aristotle, so for all I know his statement was accurate in that context. But as applied to American criminal statutes today, I can't agree with it. Those statutes, which are closely based on English common law, for the most part reflect the moral convictions of the English Protestants who founded this country. Their religious belief that certain acts--murder, theft, rape, arson, etc.--are so wrong they deserve to be punished as crimes did not spring from pure reason, nor was it free from passion.
 
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