No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I have no idea why you should think that lying to get sex has anything to do with this discussion.
IT IS PART OF THE WHOLE. I previously stated something to the effect that it is too easy for men to lie, to escape responsibility for raising their offspring, IF that was all they needed to do to get out of it. YOU replied in a way that could be interpreted as not believing men lie to escape responsibility. Perhaps I should have pointed at all the male criminals in the world, arrested and denying their guilt? But I thought it would be obvious to you that
if men lie to obtain sex, why wouldn't they lie to escape responsibility for the consequences?
Therefore what you are asking for, full freedom of men to escape the costs of raising their offspring, is too easily confounded by simple lying. AND MOST CULTURES KNOW THAT! Which is why you are not going to get what you want!
As we previously discussed in another thread, men are not responsible for the creation of children.
A STUPID LIE. I know full well that men are PARTLY responsible, and I would have said so in any other Thread. They are not fully responsible (because other entities are involved, such as independently-acting sperm and ova), but they are most certainly partly responsible.
... medical abortion of a fetus is a personal decision made by a woman alone.
GENERALLY TRUE. That's because the existence of the unborn human DIRECTLY affects her, and doesn't directly affect the man. There are exceptions, however --I think you will find cases where parents have insisted their underage pregnant daughters get abortions (along, of course, with other parents preventing their underage pregnant daughters from obtaining abortions).
Although sexual intercourse is a common cause of conception, maintaining bodily autonomy does not justify women forcing men to become fathers.
STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. Why was the man so stupid as to get involved with that woman, in this era when it is easy for men to be informed of the existence of such women, and to be wary of them? AND,
why was he so stupid as to assign all the responsibility for birth control to the woman? I told you before that Stupidity Has A Price, and it is still true, whether you want to believe it or not.
BESIDES, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL FACTOR. The State wants more taxpayers, remember? That means the State has to make sure that when babies are born, they will also receive appropriate rearing. And WHOSE babies are they? The mothers'
and the fathers'!!! Modern genetic analysis can prove that!
Why should someone else pay for what the father was most certainly partly responsible for?!?!
Therefore, as nature takes its course, a man may naturally father children through no action of his own.
A STUPID LIE. Even making a deposit at a sperm bank counts as the man taking an action toward fathering children. It is far from common for women to
**rape** men in order to become impregnated, and therefore that means the men did some acting on their own.
As a woman may choose to not become involved in matters that concern men,
FOOTBALL?
so should a man choose to become or not become involved in matters that concern women,
KNITTING?
e.g. personal decisions made by men involving fatherhood.
A FALSE COMPARISON. Parenthood by definition automatically involves both contributors to the offspring. It is not a matter that only concerns women.
It is plainly obvious that the choice does not end at sex.
TRUE FOR WOMEN; less true for men --although some men have made the choice to murder pregnant woman to prevent offspring from getting born.
Since women have access to abortion,
BECAUSE PREGNANCY DIRECTLY/IMMEDIATELY AFFECTS THEM. Not at all true for men, who have been known to run far away, simply because they are already physically separate from a pregnancy.
why shouldn't men also have access to abortion?
THEY DO. They have the right to try to convince pregnant women to get abortions. You seem to think they should also have a "right to succeed", but THAT sort of "right" exists nowhere, not for anything,
including abortion.